I went there to delete my account however it would seem I don't exist anyway cos I couldn't log in, was I upset ... NAH, saved me a job.

I stuck around and looked at some of the posts in NMC and it seemed to be a bunch of wankers letting rip at each other and going hard out to piss each other off ... good one guys!!.

The stupid thing is they were like a bunch of kids without the teacher in the classroom.

Anyway, have deleted DML from my bookmarks now and won't bother going back, it was one of the best forums around.   

i still stick my nose in every once in a while to see if any stragglers show up (the 'i haven't been here in a few weeks... WTF HAPPENED' kind).  leave the occasional post trying to inform them of what did happen in the last few weeks.  or i just harass the admin.  it is amazing how much he dislikes the truth

The admin at ToB is probably some dude in India. Kind of like when you call Dell for tech support.

Good riddance to bad rubbish

VS keeps sending emails to come back to ducati.ms (the other Ducati board they purchased)

I did get a email from ToB to tell me how to use the cool features of the new site - funny I never needed instructions before
to use a website.

Quote from: Ducatiloo on May 22, 2008, 04:16:13 PM
A lot of the posts are just squids fighting trolls fishing now also.

I miss new coke 

i fixed it for yah 

Many of the "communities" that Vertical Scope decimated have abandoned ship and regrouped on enthusiast run sights much like we have here. Have the others regrouped as quickly or successfully as we have. I doubt it, we were fortunate that the DMF  was built as an "insurance policy"  therefore giving our community a place to go before VS could even get their flag to half mast.

For those of you interested enough I found an interview with the CEO of VS. I find it interesting because he seems completely aware of how and why Internet communities exist. Yet his business practices run in a totally opposite manner. Noting this guys age might be of interest to some as well.

Interview.
http://evergeek.thestar.com/Features/2849.aspx


I guess desire really is the root of all evil.

Quote from: ODrides on May 22, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
I'm curious about that too.  Who actually owned DML originally?  And is he now involved with DMF?  Gotta feel a little sorry for the VS crew who swoop into town probably planning to make some slight revisions and to keep everyone happy, then they end up with a pile of crap.  Clearly they didn't get a good feel for the community they were moving into. I wonder how long those advertisers will stay.

wondered about this myself. also noticed that most of the TOB sponsors are no longer represented.......? maybe i missed them, or maybe they decided not to pay the premium to advertise with VS.

I would bet that "sponsors" can get a package deal when they pony up to advertise with VS. one (large) price gets them advertising on all the VS boards. that is prolly attractive to the big merchants.

Quote from: mdriver on May 22, 2008, 07:48:30 PM
Many of the "communities" that Vertical Scope decimated have abandoned ship and regrouped on enthusiast run sights much like we have here. Have the others regrouped as quickly or successfully as we have. I doubt it, we were fortunate that the DMF  was built as an "insurance policy"  therefore giving our community a place to go before VS could even get their flag to half mast.

For those of you interested enough I found an interview with the CEO of VS. I find it interesting because he seems completely aware of how and why Internet communities exist. Yet his business practices run in a totally opposite manner. Noting this guys age might be of interest to some as well.

Interview.
http://evergeek.thestar.com/Features/2849.aspx


I guess desire really is the root of all evil.

isnt most internet advertising driven by "hits" to a site, or something? if this is true, then every time someone ends up on a VS site due to it goming up on google, the chances of the advertisers getting a hit improve........? so then it has nothing to do with the communitee, or the value of the members experience. instead, it is all about traffic flow.

or maybe i am even more of a moron than my high school physics teacher thought....

Quote from: mdriver on May 22, 2008, 07:48:30 PM
Many of the "communities" that Vertical Scope decimated have abandoned ship and regrouped on enthusiast run sights much like we have here. Have the others regrouped as quickly or successfully as we have. I doubt it, we were fortunate that the DMF  was built as an "insurance policy"  therefore giving our community a place to go before VS could even get their flag to half mast.

For those of you interested enough I found an interview with the CEO of VS. I find it interesting because he seems completely aware of how and why Internet communities exist. Yet his business practices run in a totally opposite manner. Noting this guys age might be of interest to some as well.

Interview.
http://evergeek.thestar.com/Features/2849.aspx


I guess desire really is the root of all evil.

hehe, i got a new avatar.  he's really ugly so it may not last long   

Yep, just got back from a quick trip to the ghost town. I kicked around a bit, but not much sign of life in the old broad... I mean board 

It`s even worse with the time difference for me

What I noticed over there is that a lot of the posts seem to be generated by VS in order to increase traffic.
The technical content is zero now, I don't bother to go there no more.

Here's the response to my request for a refund:

"Unfortunately Jeff H was still collecting the subscription money at that time. Any issue you have about wanting a refund should be brought up with him.

Admin"

Talk about BS.

Numbers since 1:30 yesterday...

DML: 99 posts

DMF: 1815 posts

That's about an 18:1 ratio.

Quote from: Capo on May 23, 2008, 03:19:47 AM
What I noticed over there is that a lot of the posts seem to be generated by VS in order to increase traffic.
The technical content is zero now, I don't bother to go there no more.

how are people seeing the IP addresses of the posters?  i know a few people already called out some of the new members based on IP addresses

Quote from: herm on May 22, 2008, 07:42:24 PM
i fixed it for yah 

Thanks much better