Quote from: zooom on May 20, 2009, 06:30:03 AM
they didn't say anything outright...but they alluded to the idea that they are getting a clue/handle on how to maybe overcome some of the problem....I honestly think it is a combination thing...that there is no 1 thing they need to do, per individual circumstance...just a question of figuring out how to make it so that they can do the right combinations to make things work...but I am just guessing....

That's all any of us are doing.

Except derby.

He knows.

Quote from: gm2 on May 19, 2009, 10:15:37 PM
wasn't just last year..

True...although Melandri seems to be doing better this year than any other ex-Duc 800cc riders, right? On a bike that isn't getting any development!

Quote from: Triple J on May 20, 2009, 08:18:28 AM
True...although Melandri seems to be doing better this year than any other ex-Duc 800cc riders, right? On a bike that isn't getting any development!

I seriously think Kawasaki is cursed. Save for 600cc AMA (and possibly other obscure series), Kawasaki just can't compete consistently with the other manufactures. Once they clean their hands of the GP bike, it starts to do great. Maybe the lack of their involvement is a good thing.

Quote from: pennyrobber on May 20, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
I seriously think Kawasaki is cursed. Save for 600cc AMA (and possibly other obscure series), Kawasaki just can't compete consistently with the other manufactures. Once they clean their hands of the GP bike, it starts to do great. Maybe the lack of their involvement is a good thing.

hacking was making some decent progress with the bigger ninja in ama superbike last year.

it's it's not like the hayate effort isn't a bunch of ex-kawasaki motogp staff. hell, king kenny said  that the zx-rr was actually a good bike in need of a good rider. it seems that he was right.

I suspect Melandri's got a lot of rage in a bottle from last season.
Glad he's putting it to good use.

Quote from: pennyrobber on May 20, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
I seriously think Kawasaki is cursed. Save for 600cc AMA (and possibly other obscure series), Kawasaki just can't compete consistently with the other manufactures. Once they clean their hands of the GP bike, it starts to do great. Maybe the lack of their involvement is a good thing.

Quote from: derby on May 20, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
hacking was making some decent progress with the bigger ninja in ama superbike last year.

+1.  i would say better than decent.  they/he were really starting to figure that bike out.

also, WSS is not an obscure series.  lascorz is doing quite well there.

Suppo says he's happy that Melandri is doing well.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75407


 

Quote from: Spidey on May 21, 2009, 11:02:09 AM

Suppo says he's happy that Melandri is doing well.

he's still in denial about the reasons for meladri's lack of sucess on the gp8:

The Ducati boss believes Melandri is showing that he is better suited to being in an underdog situation.

"He needed different motivation and no pressure," Suppo said. "At this moment he has no pressure because he's on a bike that nobody believes is a good bike, but maybe it is.

"Not being made to do a comparison with a team-mate is a totally different situation for him. I'm personally happy for him that he's doing well."

Quote from: derby on May 21, 2009, 11:24:00 AM
he's still in denial about the reasons for meladri's lack of sucess on the gp8:

The Ducati boss believes Melandri is showing that he is better suited to being in an underdog situation.

"He needed different motivation and no pressure," Suppo said. "At this moment he has no pressure because he's on a bike that nobody believes is a good bike, but maybe it is.

"Not being made to do a comparison with a team-mate is a totally different situation for him. I'm personally happy for him that he's doing well."

Probably a quasi-graceful way of not referencing any bike problems. I don;t know if that means he's in denial, it may just be his press strategy.

"He needed different motivation..."

uh huh.  like a bike that was somewhat rideable.

you could argue that he had motivation to get a factory ride when he was winning on the gresini bike.  but still, he was running up front and winning sometimes, '05/'06.  and he was certainly motivated when he stunned the laguna grid in '07, performing like he did with a broken ankle.  the race that, ironically, cemented his ducati ride for '08.

Suppo's harsh.  In another article on autosport.com, he said Casey is less of a whiny child than he was last year, and that Nicky is far behind where he should be and needs to get his mojo back.   We also heard him speak last year.  He said that Rossi in his book lied about his discussions with Ducati in order to save face.  Man, that guy sure doesn't have a problem sharing his opinion. 

Quote from: Spidey on May 21, 2009, 12:27:05 PM
Suppo's harsh. <snip>  Man, that guy sure doesn't have a problem sharing his opinion. 

...and you do?

I have no problem with that.

Quote from: Spidey on May 21, 2009, 12:27:05 PM
   We also heard him speak last year.  He said that Rossi in his book lied about his discussions with Ducati in order to save face.  Man, that guy sure doesn't have a problem sharing his opinion. 

I remember something like rossi is a pregnant dog and we were not gonna kiss his ass.

I'm a fan of suppo.

Quote from: ducpainter on May 21, 2009, 06:20:03 PM
...and you do?

I have no problem with that.

I wasn't complaining at all.  Just observing.  I find it refreshing.

notice how whatever Suppo says carries more weight and goes further than what Puig says?!?!?!

geee, I wonder why? could it have anything to do with integrity?!?!?!