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696 charcoal canister removal

Started by mrplease, May 23, 2009, 02:24:22 PM

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mrplease

i just got the ducati air deflector plastic part thingy that goes in place of the charcoal canister if you remove it. where it make it look the same as the other side of the bike. i'm trying to decide if i want to remove the canister or not.

can someone tell me what all i need to do to remove the canister? is it an easy job? also if i don't like the look is it gonna be hard to reinstall it?



Holden

#1
Very easy. Just yank it all off and slap a couple vacuum caps on the metal nipples. You can even leave it attached to the old left shroud.

Edit: Use bolts! Mine were beginning to crack as well.
Quote from: R2 on May 27, 2009, 10:54:06 PM
I was told by a local shop that I shouldn't use the vacuum caps for the throttle bodies because they get old and crack, then air can get through them. They gave me some bolts to use instead. When I took the vacuum caps off, they were already beginning to get some surface cracks, nothing too bad, but that was only after about 4 months.

mrplease

well i would be installing a new left shroud and getting rid of the old shroud. so its as easy as just taking off the stuff, adding vacuum caps, and installing the new shroud?

how many caps will i need, where do i get them, and what size are they?

does anyone have a write up on how to remove the canister?

ungeheuer

Quote from: mrplease on May 23, 2009, 02:24:22 PM.....can someone tell me what all i need to do to remove the canister?

Can't help you with that one coz 696s in my part of the world are shipped without the thing.......  What purpose is it intended to serve?? 
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Quote from: ungeheuer on May 24, 2009, 03:27:36 AM
Can't help you with that one coz 696s in my part of the world are shipped without the thing.......  What purpose is it intended to serve?? 

Evaporitve Canister, it is filled with charcoal and it's job is to absorb gasoline fumes and burn them in the engine later.  A good idea, but they are ugly and cause problems when they old or you over fill your tank.  If you have a car, your car has one but you don't see it and it works better.

Raux

go to the how to section and i think there is a writeup.

to do it right, you need to get the euro parts pdf and take a look at how they run the tubing.

Raux

Quote from: Newcatista on May 24, 2009, 11:36:17 AM
I personally simply removed the entire hose from the fuel tank; it's purpose has nothing to do with fuel pressure in the tank and everything to do with if you over fill, or spill some into the upper compartment between the filler and the cap. Remove the R/S plastic tank cover and pull the hose out. I ended up using an end cap off of my wire closet shelving to cover it and keep any excess fuel from spilling out in the future. (Note: If you leave this tube, do NOT plug it since it will simply enable all of the gas that gets in there to simply collect over time). Also, I left the throttle-body hose hanging under the engine itself. You can cap it, but it's not recommended. There is a perfect little nook on the L/S of the engine for this one to sit in without any fears of flames.


WOAH. that is allllll wrong. do not listen to that idea

the hoses to the throttle bodies are vacuum lines and without them sealed you'll have issues. also the hose he plugged on his tank is a pressure release line that vents fuel vapor, not overflow. you'll be building pressure in your fuel tank... not good.

that is the WRONG way to remove the canister.

the vent hose and the overflow hoses should be T'd together to let overflow and vapors out. also you should seal off the intake plenums.


lwszabo

Quote from: Newcatista on May 24, 2009, 11:36:17 AM
I personally simply removed the entire hose from the fuel tank; it's purpose has nothing to do with fuel pressure in the tank and everything to do with if you over fill, or spill some into the upper compartment between the filler and the cap. Remove the R/S plastic tank cover and pull the hose out. I ended up using an end cap off of my wire closet shelving to cover it and keep any excess fuel from spilling out in the future. (Note: If you leave this tube, do NOT plug it since it will simply enable all of the gas that gets in there to simply collect over time). Also, I left the throttle-body hose hanging under the engine itself. You can cap it, but it's not recommended. There is a perfect little nook on the L/S of the engine for this one to sit in without any fears of flames.


WTF!..... again DO NOT DO THIS!!!

mrplease

wow! thanks guys!

also, can i get some good pics of that side with the euro shroud. i have the part but i'm still on the fence if i want to do this mod or not. i am still thinking it looks better with the canister on. it makes that side look beefier and when removed it kind of looks like something is missing. not to mention the grooves looks easy to get dirty and a pain in the ass to clean. anyway i need pics from a few different angles. i'd appreciate it!!!!

Holden

Just look at the other side of your bike in a mirror. ;D

I never mind seeing more of the engine... or less plastic!


mrplease

is there a way to take off the canister and install the new shroud, and if i don't like it install the charcoal canister back on? or is it a once its done, its done thing?

mrplease

Quote from: Raux on May 24, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
go to the how to section and i think there is a writeup.

to do it right, you need to get the euro parts pdf and take a look at how they run the tubing.

where do i find the euro parts pdf?

Newcatista

Great! Nice to learn my local pseudo bike mechanic is a moron...Sorry about the bad info, and thanks to all those who corrected me. I'll be repairing this one soon...  :-[

mrplease

Quote from: Raux on May 24, 2009, 12:57:38 PM
WOAH. that is allllll wrong. do not listen to that idea

the hoses to the throttle bodies are vacuum lines and without them sealed you'll have issues. also the hose he plugged on his tank is a pressure release line that vents fuel vapor, not overflow. you'll be building pressure in your fuel tank... not good.

that is the WRONG way to remove the canister.

the vent hose and the overflow hoses should be T'd together to let overflow and vapors out. also you should seal off the intake plenums.



do i HAVE TO T the vent hose & overflow hose together? i am so confused. someone please help!