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6000 mile service ducati 749

Started by That Nice Guy Beck!, May 29, 2009, 11:40:04 AM

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$815

is this normal?  ??? :-X
what are they actually gonna do to the bike?
I just dropped it off BTW [coffee]

OverCaffeinated

A dealer told me $800-1000 for my 6k on a air cooled 2v.  So $815 isn't out of line for a liquid cooled 4v.

Where might you be located sir?

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these services are such fkin scams, just a way to make money.. terrible

caperix

Quote from: OverCaffeinated on May 29, 2009, 12:10:16 PM
A dealer told me $800-1000 for my 6k on a air cooled 2v.  So $815 isn't out of line for a liquid cooled 4v.

Where might you be located sir?

$815 sounds pretty high for the 749 & $800-$1000 is completely out of line for a 2 valve.  Ducati advertises on the newer bikes that the 7500 mile service should only cost about $300 plus time for replacing shims if needed.  That is on a 4 valve bike.  If you look in you owners manaul there is a list of what is done at each service, the 6k/7500 service is pretty basic.  If you have basic hand tools & mechanical abiltiy you should be able to do it your self for $50 & a case of beer if your valves are in spec.

What model of air cooled bike is it?

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Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 29, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
$815

is this normal?  ??? :-X
what are they actually gonna do to the bike?
I just dropped it off BTW [coffee]
Really depends on what they do.

If the bike hasn't ever had belts and they adjust the valves and replace many shims it's not out of line IMO.
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Quote from: ducpainter on May 30, 2009, 06:30:18 AM
Really depends on what they do.

If the bike hasn't ever had belts and they adjust the valves and replace many shims it's not out of line IMO.

ok so I should ask them if they replaced the shims and belts?
I know the belts have never been changed

That Nice Guy Beck!

Quote from: caperix on May 30, 2009, 06:11:18 AM
$815 sounds pretty high for the 749 & $800-$1000 is completely out of line for a 2 valve.  Ducati advertises on the newer bikes that the 7500 mile service should only cost about $300 plus time for replacing shims if needed.  That is on a 4 valve bike.  If you look in you owners manaul there is a list of what is done at each service, the 6k/7500 service is pretty basic.  If you have basic hand tools & mechanical abiltiy you should be able to do it your self for $50 & a case of beer if your valves are in spec.

What model of air cooled bike is it?

ha i dont even know how to lube the chain

brad black

depends on what parts they're replacing, what work they're doing and how much they charge per hour.  could get that high fairly easily - belts are au$170 or so each.
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Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 29, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
$815

is this normal?  ??? :-X
what are they actually gonna do to the bike?
I just dropped it off BTW [coffee]
I heard that a 749S (only? I don't know) requires more labor for the valve check -- might involve pulling one/both of the heads... [roll]

woodyracing

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it takes a lot of time to do a valve adjustment on a 749/999.  We have to remove the fuel tank and radiator.  Your looking at 8 valves with 2 shims each that have to be checked.  I did a valve adjustment on a 749 today, had to replace all 8 closing shims and 3 openers to get them all within spec.  Because you can't trust Ducati's shim sizes each one has to be measured and compared to the one taken out.  Did a 999 yesterday that needed 6 closers and 4 openers.  Seems rare to find one of those that doesn't require a decent amount of work.  Besides the work required just to get to the valves, if you look at the checklist (a good dealer will be able to give you a copy of the checklist) there is quite a lot of other work involved. 

That Nice Guy Beck!

Quote from: woodyracing on June 03, 2009, 07:35:57 PM
it takes a lot of time to do a valve adjustment on a 749/999.  We almost always have to remove the fuel tank and radiator.  Your looking at 8 valves with 2 shims each that have to be checked.  I did a valve adjustment on a 749 today, had to replace all 8 closing shims and 3 openers to get them all within spec.  Because you can't trust Ducati's shim sizes each one has to be measured and compared to the one taken out.  Did a 999 yesterday that needed 6 closers and 4 openers.  Seems rare to find one of those that doesn't require a decent amount of work.  Besides the work required just to get to the valves, if you look at the checklist (a good dealer will be able to give you a copy of the checklist) there is quite a lot of other work involved. 

whats a valve? whats a shim?

woodyracing

Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on June 04, 2009, 11:08:51 PM
whats a valve? whats a shim?

ok I hate to be "that guy" but are these serious questions or are you being facetious?

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im pretty sure hes serious, he doesnt even know how to clean or inspects his chain, i dont think hes a seasonal weekend rider and tries to sell his 749 every year.
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Beck, at a minimum, besides the oil change and filters you are paying labor for the time it takes to check the valve clearances which is rather time consuming.  If this check is not done you risk severe engine damage.  If the timing belts haven't been changed yet they are due.  Some shops charge a price for checking valve clearance and an additional charge for each valve that is adjusted, some charge a flat rate.  Then, there are other operations that may be due on your bike like brake fluid flush and fork oil change.  Some shops charge individually for these, some throw it in with the service.  You need to talk directly to the shop and let them explain what you are being charged for.  If you are still not satisfied, find another shop.