Quote from: gm2 on June 03, 2009, 12:49:52 PM
this is actually the point where i start to sound more like fasterblkduc.  it sorta doesn't matter.. you don't need uber warmers. 

We disagree again!!   I've seen too many of the cheaper brands crap out on people at the track. I've seen very few Chicken Hawk warmers have problems. If I am buying something, I try to get the best and Chicken Hawk is THE standard...like Pitbull is the standard for stands. There are other brands of course that are good, I'm just saying that spending a little more for quality is going to pay off in the long run. You don't really need the adjustable, or digital ones for trackdays. (Ok, gm2...we agree on this!  ) But, I would try to get at least one of the top brands. Yes, Woodcraft was mentioned and they are nice too. Forget about the extra features, just go for quality.
You can usually find good used ones on race forums like WERA.

Like mentioned, cheaper generators are loud. Those Hondas sure are nice but man...that's a lot of$$! I have a 5,000W Coleman that is loud as heck but we just put it on the backside of the trailer and then it's not bad. Plan on one set of warmers using approx. 1300-1500 Watts. Mine is so big because it powers three sets.

Do we all agree?

I agree that the generator will power my warmers.  I really think that tire warmers, not a nicessity tho, allow people to ride better and make the track a safer place.  Any effort made to make the track safer, weather thats people not having to do a few "warm up laps" every session by using tire warmers and thus having more confidance in their performance off the bat when hitting the track, makes a difference to everyone on the track.  Really I think if you are going to do something do it right and get the proper equipment to do it right.  Can you play catcher with a regular glove, yes, but use a catchers glove and it will work out better.  Really it comes down to what do you want to get out of your track day.  You wanna get faster, you probally want to use warmers to get the most out of your day.  you just want to burn around the track then you may not need them because you are having fun either way, just keep in mind you are more limited without the use of the warmers.  now I'm up t 4cents here

Quote from: tufty on June 03, 2009, 12:58:51 PM
Ah BOLLOCKS!! I just ordered a set of DWP's!!! shit, shit, shit, shit!!!
My Powerstands Racing crapped out already.

it's really more of a nuisance than anything else.  i still use the same straps, they just aren't connected on the one end so they're connected via velcro on both ends.  not the end of the world.  and derby also has some DWPs; i think his are fine so far.

the rear warmer could also be a bit larger.  when i run 195s, they just barely connect.

Quote from: fasterblkduc on June 03, 2009, 01:26:01 PM
We disagree again!!   I've seen too many of the cheaper brands crap out on people at the track. I've seen very few Chicken Hawk warmers have problems. If I am buying something, I try to get the best and Chicken Hawk is THE standard...like Pitbull is the standard for stands. There are other brands of course that are good, I'm just saying that spending a little more for quality is going to pay off in the long run. You don't really need the adjustable, or digital ones for trackdays. (Ok, gm2...we agree on this!  ) But, I would try to get at least one of the top brands. Yes, Woodcraft was mentioned and they are nice too. Forget about the extra features, just go for quality.

you didn't say anything there that i'd disagree with...   

Quote from: fasterblkduc on June 03, 2009, 01:26:01 PM
Like mentioned, cheaper generators are loud. Those Hondas sure are nice but man...that's a lot of$$!

got mine second hand so it wasn't that pricey.  like just about everything honda makes, i think that thing will outlive me. 

See, you guys gotta take my simple question and then make me think about the extra $ I've gotta spend on better tire warmers and a generator.  

I'm just going to do track days with you GM and bite off your generator!

I guess my original question was, is spending the extra money on the warmers going to save me more money on tires in the long run.

I'm pretty chill when I go out on the first few laps on a sportbike so the warming on the way out isn't as important to me as minimizing heat cycles and increasing tire life.

Now my crf450 doesn't require any warm up time or tires.  I bought the wheels with from a racer and I think  shagged the tires pretty nicely.  I've done 7-8 track days with the same tires and they stick like glue.  225lbs bike and 35 HP will get you that I guess!  Full speed on the first lap and I'm a liter bike killer.  about half way through the session, not so much.

Quote from: GregP on June 03, 2009, 03:07:08 PM
See, you guys gotta take my simple question and then make me think about the extra $ I've gotta spend on better tire warmers and a generator.  

I'm just going to do track days with you GM and bite off your generator!

I guess my original question was, is spending the extra money on the warmers going to save me more money on tires in the long run.

I'm pretty chill when I go out on the first few laps on a sportbike so the warming on the way out isn't as important to me as minimizing heat cycles and increasing tire life.

Now my crf450 doesn't require any warm up time or tires.  I bought the wheels with from a racer and I think  shagged the tires pretty nicely.  I've done 7-8 track days with the same tires and they stick like glue.  225lbs bike and 35 HP will get you that I guess!  Full speed on the first lap and I'm a liter bike killer.  about half way through the session, not so much.

Damn Greg....... that CRF is lighter than you...... no wonder the chain broke

I was hoping no one would notice that!