Quote from: tonkoshala on June 14, 2009, 11:24:01 PM
Bro did I really sound that ignorant?

That's the way it came across when I read it. 

It takes more than horsepower to be fast.  One fellow Monster owner who prefers e-mail lists to forums like this one has a 130+ horsepower custom 888 Superbike and a 900 Monster with much less power.  He claims that he is several seconds per lap faster on the Monster than on the 888.  It has as much to do with light weight and riding position as anything else.

There is more to a fast bike than raw horsepower.

Links to photos of the two bikes:
http://www.mad-ducati.com/images/MikeCecchini/MikeCecchini.html
http://www.mad-ducati.com/images/MikeCecchini/Monster/Monster1.html

Quote from: ScottRNelson on June 15, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
There is more to a fast bike than raw horsepower.

Duh, the red frame makes the monster hella faster. 

It doesn't matter, except when talking to someone down at Starbucks.   I've got an S4, runs pretty good, I wouldn't call it real fast, but it can hold it's own up until about 125-130 when it's getting topped out.  It's got really good stomp coming out of turns, in fact, when it starts coming on real hard about 8000 rpm, it starts to spin the tire up.  As to whether something is faster than the other, I guess it all depends on who is going to hold it on longer going into the turn.    Straights don't really matter, if they did, everyone would have a Hayabusa.   

Around the racetrack?   I was at Streets of Willow last year, on a CBR900RR, the only thing slowing that old Honda down was ME.   Going into the first and second turn, 2 guys on Supermotos, a KTM 525 and a Husqvarna 610, went around the outside of me, tires  sliding, knees down, and that was the last I saw of them.   At  least they didn't lap me, the sessions weren't long enough.  So it really all depends on the rider out there on the racetrack.   I've got a lot of respect for those guys on their converted dirtbikes.   

My buddy makes his 86 cagiva elefant look insanely fun! Word up on converted dirt bike comment!

Quote from: tonkoshala on June 14, 2009, 11:52:47 PM
Thanks bud. The SR bit was a typo. So my reasoning for the view was not too far fetched?

Did you not read his post?  The numbers you are using are not comparable as Ducati went from rear wheel to crank numbers between the release dates on those models. There is about 20 HP between the two before or after doing the exhaust on both. The S4 has a high end punch that the S2R does not.

Quote from: corndog67 on June 15, 2009, 06:42:43 PM
It doesn't matter, except when talking to someone down at Starbucks.   I've got an S4, runs pretty good, I wouldn't call it real fast, but it can hold it's own up until about 125-130 when it's getting topped out.  It's got really good stomp coming out of turns, in fact, when it starts coming on real hard about 8000 rpm, it starts to spin the tire up.  As to whether something is faster than the other, I guess it all depends on who is going to hold it on longer going into the turn.    Straights don't really matter, if they did, everyone would have a Hayabusa.   

Around the racetrack?   I was at Streets of Willow last year, on a CBR900RR, the only thing slowing that old Honda down was ME.   Going into the first and second turn, 2 guys on Supermotos, a KTM 525 and a Husqvarna 610, went around the outside of me, tires  sliding, knees down, and that was the last I saw of them.   At  least they didn't lap me, the sessions weren't long enough.  So it really all depends on the rider out there on the racetrack.   I've got a lot of respect for those guys on their converted dirtbikes.   

well were the guys going around you like in the ducati hypermotard poster with the knee down giving you the thumbs up at the same time?  lol that would have been classic.

 
This thread is hilarious!  

RIF  

Quote from: pompetta on June 17, 2009, 07:41:00 AM

This thread is hilarious!  
RIF  

+1 on that Bro.

LA

Bahaha figured I would getting flamed posting this...

Will try and save a lil face by saying that I wasn't aware that the HP was measured at the crank in the later years...

Quote from: tonkoshala on June 17, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
Will try and save a lil face by saying that I wasn't aware that the HP was measured at the crank in the later years...

Good spin... good spin

Quote from: tonkoshala on June 17, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
Bahaha figured I would getting flamed posting this...

Will try and save a lil face by saying that I wasn't aware that the HP was measured at the crank in the later years...

Well...I was chuckling at the grammar in your OP, and then your apparent misread of Spidey's informative post.    

I - for one - would not laugh at someone for not knowing when a motorcycle company changed from measuring torque at the wheel to measuring torque at the crank. 

What Kind of Rims are on that Monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: ScottRNelson on June 15, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
That's the way it came across when I read it. 

It takes more than horsepower to be fast.  One fellow Monster owner who prefers e-mail lists to forums like this one has a 130+ horsepower custom 888 Superbike and a 900 Monster with much less power.  He claims that he is several seconds per lap faster on the Monster than on the 888.  It has as much to do with light weight and riding position as anything else.

There is more to a fast bike than raw horsepower.

Links to photos of the two bikes:
http://www.mad-ducati.com/images/MikeCecchini/MikeCecchini.html
http://www.mad-ducati.com/images/MikeCecchini/Monster/Monster1.html

Quote from: clittelm750 on June 17, 2009, 05:32:31 PM
What Kind of Rims are on that Monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they're Dymags.

Quote from: pompetta on June 17, 2009, 03:47:29 PM
Well...I was chuckling at the grammar in your OP, and then your apparent misread of Spidey's informative post.    

I - for one - would not laugh at someone for not knowing when a motorcycle company changed from measuring torque at the wheel to measuring torque at the crank. 

if yuo can raed tihs, you hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.
Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

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Quote from: tonkoshala on June 20, 2009, 11:38:14 PM

if yuo can raed tihs, you hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.
Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

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