Quote from: sbrguy on June 16, 2009, 06:10:29 PM
i don't have a problem with what they do, they are catering to a certain crowd and it definitely needs to be done (better some armor than none)

Not sure if I necessarily agree with their position - a lot of people might have an illusion of safety by wearing " some " gear, when the reality is it's rarely one thing that saves you in a crash, but the net effect of wearing everything.

Although, that mission statement sounds a lot better than "we sell largely ineffective gear to the biker night crowd with tough graphics and advertising.  bling bling, balla!" 

Cheers,
Adam

The Vest is part of Icon's Field Armor Collection.

The Elbow and Knee and Shin Armor that I wore at one time did seem like it would be fairly effective.

Certainly seemed on par with the composite CE Armor that Dainese has under their leather Pants and Jackets.

Don't know about the Icon Vest.

I would like to find something I could wear that was not hot and uncomfortable that would protect my Ribs since I still have a broken Rib from a crash a year ago last April that will not heal due to the way it's out of alignment and can't touch each broken end.

Surgeon says it's not worth the risk for the benefit that might be accomplished.

The other 3 Ribs that were broken healed ok.

I have a Dainese Wave V Safety Jacket but it doesn't cover the Ribs very well.

Not sure if a hard protector or a soft protector would be best ?     

Thought about putting those little plastic bags of air that are use in packing down in my Jacket.   They would absorb the initial shock then burst.

A hard protector would I think just transfer the shock and pressure and break your Ribs.     Dolph

Quote from: DoubleEagle on June 16, 2009, 08:41:13 PM
A hard protector would I think just transfer the shock and pressure and break your Ribs.     Dolph

you started thinking correctly, and then veered off course.  the harder protector does transfer the shock and pressure. you would be less likely to break your ribs, because it works as a disperser of the force over a much greater area. With a soft protector, a small amount is absorbed in the compression of the material, but its still transmitted directly through along its original path, not dispersed over your torso.

Quote from: ato memphis on June 16, 2009, 08:56:15 PM
you started thinking correctly, and then veered off course.  the harder protector does transfer the shock and pressure. you would be less likely to break your ribs, because it works as a disperser of the force over a much greater area. With a soft protector, a small amount is absorbed in the compression of the material, but its still transmitted directly through along its original path, not dispersed over your torso.

You said it perfectly brotha!! +1

Quote from: DrDesmosedici on June 16, 2009, 07:52:22 PM
Not sure if I necessarily agree with their position - a lot of people might have an illusion of safety by wearing " some " gear, when the reality is it's rarely one thing that saves you in a crash, but the net effect of wearing everything.

Although, that mission statement sounds a lot better than "we sell largely ineffective gear to the biker night crowd with tough graphics and advertising.  bling bling, balla!" 

Cheers,
Adam

i agree that "best case" situation is all the gear all the time, but you have to face reality which is for some people for their own reasons is not an option.

i'd rather have someone with somethign on rather than nothing on.  by no means is it the "best" or the "greatest option" but its a step in teh right direction. 

the only good thing is that someone elses decision in this case does not affect what you wear, so that they can choose lesser options but it wont' affect your choices for gear.

you are right they dfeinitely are going for the bling factor.

although their knee armor does look interesting and i was considering that, but also considering other brands what is another brand that would fit nicely under a pair of jeans?

I have the Field Armor for the lower legs and it works fine for when I don't feel like wearing my leather pants. My only complaint is the straps could be a bit longer for the calves...

Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 09, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
I have about 23 leather riding Jackets, mostly Dainese , but I do have 4 Icons, ( 1 Merc Hero and 2 Daytona Retros and a Stealth ) and I'd have to say they are very well made ( 1.2-1.3 mm thick cowhide ) and that comes from someone who has the best Dainese leather Jackets , leather pants and racing gloves as well as a Ducati Corse Racing suit and 2 Ducati Corse Jackets , and a 80s Ducati leather Jacket which are also made by Dainese.             

I also wore the Icon Field Armor Knee & Shin Armor and Elbow Armor before I found Dainese . I found it to be very well made for the price and felt like the Armor would protect me in a crash.

                Dolph     

do you where a different jacket for each day of the month...you're like a girl with shoes  I can say that I'm a girl...although I would love to have 23 different riding jackets, then 23 diff helmets to match...

I'm surprised by ICON...but as someone else posted you voided the warranty by fixing..although it would have been good customer relations to at least offer you a new pair at a discounted price or something...I don't buy ICON, especially their helmets...they might look nice, but they are cheap...meaning they don't hold up well, the vents fall off this happened to a friends helmet.  I'll only trust my head to the professionals...don't see any racers wearing ICON helmets 

Quote from: Qwack on June 18, 2009, 09:53:45 PM
do you where a different jacket for each day of the month...you're like a girl with shoes  I can say that I'm a girl...although I would love to have 23 different riding jackets, then 23 diff helmets to match...

I'm surprised by ICON...but as someone else posted you voided the warranty by fixing..although it would have been good customer relations to at least offer you a new pair at a discounted price or something...I don't buy ICON, especially their helmets...they might look nice, but they are cheap...meaning they don't hold up well, the vents fall off this happened to a friends helmet.  I'll only trust my head to the professionals...don't see any racers wearing ICON helmets 

Dolph is famous on this board for his gear collection and cleaning habits.


I have to disagree with you on the Icon helmets. My mainframe had no problems for the two years I had it, then saved my head last month. They may be heavy, but they're not cheap crap.

when i bought my icon recon riding jeans, i bought them cause of the price, at the time, they were the least expensive. now, after reading this, i'll go somewhere else to get my gear...

Quote from: Bun-bun on June 19, 2009, 09:31:22 AM



I have to disagree with you on the Icon helmets. My mainframe had no problems for the two years I had it, then saved my head last month. They may be heavy, but they're not cheap crap.

+1 I have the Domain helmet (the notorious vent buster in question, I believe). I've dropped it twice and nothing's come off. If and when I drop it with my head in it I'll update on it's true quality. Seriously, not the best stuff, not the worst either. Still should have replaced the jeans, bad p.r.

It requires mentioning, again, that a "cheap" helmet is only less expensive because the kind of ventilation and the weight, it has little or nothing to do with protection.

The magazines have fully debunked this, and if its SNELL / DOT / etc rated, your melon is "safe"...well...perhaps as safe as it could be.

Icon sucks. It's for Timberland and T shirt crews that go back and forth on the highway.  Save up for some Astars or even better Dianese.  I just started wearing a Revit Jacket and it's great.  The arms are long but I had a leather tailor shorten them to fit me perfectly.

just my 2 cents...

Just because they cater to a different demographic doesn't mean they don't make quality gear. I have heard many good things about the Motorhead jackets. I was wearing a SuperDuty jacket when I got hit my a semi and had no upper body injuries...

Quote from: NAKID on June 26, 2009, 12:46:51 PM
... when I got hit my a semi and had no upper body injuries...

HOLY CRAP!!!  glad you're alive to tell the tale !!!

Yeah, coming up on 3 years ago. Tore up my left leg bad though...