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Started by ungeheuer, July 21, 2009, 05:23:29 AM

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Holden

Quote from: ungeheuer on August 16, 2009, 10:52:53 PM
Great fix  [thumbsup] Although - yeah, call me a foreigner - I actually have NFI what a sharpie pen is.  So in truth I cant picture your mod... but with your digital camera, you could picture it for me  ;D.  Hmm?
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I'll try to take a couple shots after work. It does sound a little vague...

Believe me folks, no one is more pissed at Rizoma than I am! Since I installed the grips I've been scouring the planet for little do-dads such as these to carve into the right shape. You'd think $50 would buy them a little R&D.

NAKID

Quote from: ungeheuer on August 16, 2009, 10:52:53 PM
I actually have NFI what a sharpie pen is.  So in truth I cant picture your mod... but with your digital camera, you could picture it for me  ;D.  Hmm?
+1000

2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

Holden


KEH

Quote from: ungeheuer on August 05, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
No friends with Suzukis?  No problem!  Just find somebody - anybody - with these grips fitted to something that aint using the "2-stroke" cam.  That'll buy you six months to find another similar "friend" so you can fix the issue all over again....  << repeat indefinitely ...lol

You guys are using the 2 stroke cam?  ???

How? Mine only has one hole but I have two throttle cables.

Holden

Quote from: KEH on August 17, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
You guys are using the 2 stroke cam?  ???

How? Mine only has one hole but I have two throttle cables.

696 issue (photos above).

KEH

Yeah, I was posting while those pics were posted so I didn't see them.

The 696 must have a different cable setup than my m750. I have two cables coming from the carbs.

NAKID

Only the older Monsters use 2 cables. My old 800 and current S2R1000 use 1...
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

ungeheuer

#52
Hey Holden... nice mod to fix an issue that shouldnt exist....  I'm just a little concerned that the Sharpie mod could become detached from the craptonite cam causing the throttle to jam (possibly in the open position)??
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Holden

#53
Quote from: ungeheuer on August 17, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
Hey Holden... nice mod to fix an issue that shouldnt exist....  I'm just a little concerned that the Sharpie mod could become detached from the craptonite cam causing the throttle to jam (possibly in the open position)??

A valid concern... I'm actually re-doing it without glue (expanded and changed the position... it was too easy to yank off). I'm going to try clamping it on real good with pliers. The 'teeth' should embed in the cam and keep it snug. If that doesn't work, I'm going to find a small nail and nail it in place if that's possible. I've even considered just using a nail (the flat head would act as the stop) if I could find one the right size.

I guess I should put a disclaimer on the miracle mod. :P

m1moto


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QuoteI'd be pissed to spend $150 on a set of bling bling grips that suck ass and require me to screw with them to even get them to work.
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redial

Quote from: KEH on August 17, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
You guys are using the 2 stroke cam?  ???



can anyone explain how the 2 stroke cam works? it looks (and when i tried to test fit, seemed to indeed be) much too big for the throttle housing.

my stupid throttle cable is about an inch too long, and im getting really frusterated. i was hoping it was a rizoma throttle tube issue, but it seems like its too long to simply be that.

the throttle cable came from ducati for a m750ie *(which is indeed my bike so i have no clue why it doesnt fit. i have clipons but wtf would that matter?!?!)

patorojo

ok, so I had been thinking about taking apart my throttle and clarifying my previous post with pictures, but never did.  A recent unfortunate driveway tipover neccessitated the removal of the bar end mirror et al, so I figured what the heck, take apart the throttle tube and take some pics.  So, the deal was/is the 2 stroke cam, which best approximates the stock ducati cam, is poorly formed at the throttle closed position, eventually (or initially) leading to a situation where the throttle closed position "sticks".  This results from the "ramp" of the initial cam curve near the cable attachment, impacting the inside of the housing and not allowing a positive "stop" with the end of the cam.  So instead of building up the ramp as some have done, I ground it off so that the stop would be the square edge of the cam, providing a positive non wearing interface. Pictures below of the modified cam:






In the following picture, the small gap on the left inside between housing and cam would not be present if left stock.
Arne Berger
2007 S2R1K
2007 DL650
2005 DRZ400S

Holden

So it actually stops on the end of the cam? (here)|<---2  STROKES

Is there a lot more loose free play now? or is the new point where it stops that much farther back?

Sounds good!

patorojo

Quote from: Holden on August 25, 2009, 09:00:53 PM
So it actually stops on the end of the cam? (here)|<---2  STROKES

If I understand your diagram, you are referring to the left vertical shoulder in my second picture.  However, this is looking from the perspective of the center of the triple, so the rotation of the cam to throttle closed position is to the right, so the stop is actually the right vertical shoulder in this picture, or:  2  STROKES---->|

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Is there a lot more loose free play now? or is the new point where it stops that much farther back?



I am able to adjust the throttle cable so there is no free play at throttle closed.

Arne Berger
2007 S2R1K
2007 DL650
2005 DRZ400S

Holden

...I digress. [laugh]

As long as it works as it should! I will try this myself once I figure out how to adjust the throttle cable accordingly.