Quote from: gm2 on September 08, 2009, 10:16:21 AM
and i hope that jt can get it together and stick around.  i know the sbk->gp transition can be rough but i'm still hoping he finds a way to display some of that 2007 brilliance on the gp bike.  he did start with it.

I really don't get it.  I used to root for JT.  Even in 2008, he had some promising rides.  And that was on top of dealing with tires, a new bike and a buncha new tracks.  So you'd expect this year to be a lot better.  But he's going backward.  And the bike is well-sorted, though not up to FIAT-spec.  Just look at CE.  [MISANO SPOILER] He was leading a factory Honda in the standings until that "fruity rainbow helmet" guy took him and Hayden out. 

He does have a point about the other mid-pack Europeans, but all the more reason to ditch those guys too.  I hate that less-deserving folks that are backed by more sponsorship $ get rides.  I know racing is a business and that's how it works, but it still kinda irks me. 

well, Gabor was in 9th there the other day.. for a second.

Toseland is going the same way as the rest of the ex-WSBK transplants who didn't get it. The ones who did get it had the luxury of time which he doesn't. Get one of the English guys out of the 250s & stick him on a satellite bike and you're good. Take Toseland back to WSBK on the R1 and put Spies on the Tech3 and be done with it. The whole episode with the switching of engineers really soured me to Toseland (not that I was a fan to start with). "It's not the bike" still rings in my head when I think about it.

Re. Rossi & Lorenzo, you can expect Rossi to start playing some really nasty mind games with Lorenzo if Lorenzo starts winning consistently. That's Rossi's MO.

Quote from: EvilSteve on September 08, 2009, 11:22:05 AM
Re. Rossi & Lorenzo, you can expect Rossi to start playing some really nasty mind games with Lorenzo if Lorenzo starts winning consistently. That's Rossi's MO.

You would think that, but this is the first case where I believe Rossi's mind games will fall on deaf ears.  Lorenzo seems just as good with the mind games as Rossi... "we're just fighting for second place" blah blah blah.  Lorenzo rides as hard, celebrates as hard, and takes it to the ragged edge.  I hope Rossi stays around 2-3 more years so we can watch these guys dog it out over the championship.  I'd imagine Lorenzo will walk away with a title while Rossi is still riding.  I think Jorge will end up being the reason Rossi stays with bikes as well.  Rossi loves motivation and a challenge, and he's finally got himself a "clone" to compete against.  DNF's or a blown engine will seperate the two, but they are incredibly close in the skill department.  Jorge is maturing fast.  He's another season away from understanding the tactics of winning the close ones I think.  Its not for lack of ability.

I'm not saying Rossi will win, I'm saying that he'll start his usual tactics if Lorenzo keeps winning. I think Lorenzo has the potential to push Rossi but Rossi also has more leverage being the #1 at Yamaha.

Quote from: Jester on September 08, 2009, 12:09:46 PM
Lorenzo seems just as good with the mind games as Rossi...

i think he's learning fast but imo he's nowhere near that

Rossi on the Duc has been tossed around for a while, although I was under the impression it didn't happen last time (Casey got the ride) cause Burgess-Rossi could not work with Ducati.

I'm not convinced Rossi's "really p*ssed" about Lorenzo.  It's business and he knows it.  He knew two years ago that whatever he, Burgess, and the engineers came up with would go to his "teammate" and others riding the bike in the future.  Probably just more Rossi psychology....

http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/2009/09/09/edwards_back_with_tech_3_for_2010_seat_h.html

more speculation in regards to Tech3 and Spies....

Quote from: zooom on September 09, 2009, 07:50:46 AM
http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/2009/09/09/edwards_back_with_tech_3_for_2010_seat_h.html

more speculation in regards to Tech3 and Spies....

Wouldn't that be a fine twist.

i missed the "foresees" first time around.  interesting.

These renewed rumors re Spies in 2010 make me happy again.   

Quote from: Spidey on September 09, 2009, 11:00:03 AM
These renewed rumors re Spies in 2010 make me happy again.   

because it puts Ben's schlong back in your mouth?    J/K

Quote from: zooom on September 09, 2009, 11:18:47 AM
because it puts Ben's schlong back in your mouth?    J/K

What makes you think I ever took it out?     BTW, be careful with all the talk about Ben's junk.  You'll make gm2 jealous.

Quote from: Spidey on September 09, 2009, 11:51:32 AM
What makes you think I ever took it out?     BTW, be careful with all the talk about Ben's junk.  You'll make gm2 jealous.

HEY...you can feel free to dispell the myth about him having enough junk for the both of you....

Quote from: gm2 on September 08, 2009, 02:54:31 PM
i think he's learning fast but imo he's nowhere near that

I'd agree with that...

I also think that while Yorgie may be as talented a rider as Rossi...

he's nowhere near the racer Rossi is....yet.