Its optional if you want to tape em up or disconnect the harness..

Quote from: orangelion03 on September 16, 2009, 02:55:30 PM
Wouldnt worry too much about the hangin' Stopintime...the pros were riding like you and going plenty fast before Agostini started all that gymnastics stuff. 

Yep, I know - I'm going faster than quite a few of the hanging off riders so my rhythm and smoothness are probably working well(ish). I'm just saying that if I want to go faster, with most/all lean angle used, I will probably have to put more weight on the inside. Not that I have to, but it's nice to have some challenges on the Monster before I seriously start thinking SBK.

Quote from: stopintime on September 16, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
Yep, I know - I'm going faster than quite a few of the hanging off riders so my rhythm and smoothness are probably working well(ish). I'm just saying that if I want to go faster, with most/all lean angle used, I will probably have to put more weight on the inside. Not that I have to, but it's nice to have some challenges on the Monster before I seriously start thinking SBK.

Do you often drag hard parts when you lean the monster with out hangin off the bike?

Quote from: w7ck7d on September 16, 2009, 04:05:32 PM
Do you often drag hard parts when you lean the monster with out hangin off the bike?

No, not yet, but I have dragged toes - until I moved them further back and in.
I have a very stiff linear spring which probably compresses less than stock, even if stock was preloaded.

I was draggin kickstand when i wasnt hangin off the bike ..but when i started hangin off more i was corning better and less input to the handle bar.

I know lots of guys who remove the kickstand for the track --> just park in one of those chock things.

Quote from: ato memphis on September 17, 2009, 04:43:49 AM
I know lots of guys who remove the kickstand for the track --> just park in one of those chock things.

+1 removing the kickstand.And you must have the tire chock.It really pays the price.

I'll see your hill, and show you one of mine! This is a pic of turn 11 at AMP:



You can see that I don't hang off that much either, and this is one of two places on the track where I sometimes drag the sidestand. It makes a horrible noise but never seems to upset the bike all that much.

(The camera angle is a bit funny here - the zx6 is more or less at the apex and I'm picking the bike up on the way out).

Quote from: monsta on September 11, 2009, 05:38:53 AM
thanks.  I'll send ya a high res one if you want....

Yes please! rlackey@360okc.com

Quote from: stopintime on September 16, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
Yep, I know - I'm going faster than quite a few of the hanging off riders so my rhythm and smoothness are probably working well(ish). I'm just saying that if I want to go faster, with most/all lean angle used, I will probably have to put more weight on the inside. Not that I have to, but it's nice to have some challenges on the Monster before I seriously start thinking SBK.

DAMN, Lars. Nice! 

You've obviously got no problems leaning the bike WAAAAAY the hell over. Before you start worrying about dragging knee pucks, I would suggest you start trying to kiss your inside hand.

Moving your upper body, even while keeping your lower half planted, will shift A LOT of weight both inside and forward. Moving JUST your upper body will also help keep you from getting "crossed up."

Won't help you scrape pucks, tho. 

Quote from: Obsessed? on September 22, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
DAMN, Lars. Nice! 

You've obviously got no problems leaning the bike WAAAAAY the hell over. Before you start worrying about dragging knee pucks, I would suggest you start trying to kiss your inside hand.

Moving your upper body, even while keeping your lower half planted, will shift A LOT of weight both inside and forward. Moving JUST your upper body will also help keep you from getting "crossed up."

Won't help you scrape pucks, tho. 

During my second to last track day I remember to have done just that, and it worked very well. I have a large body, so it might be enough to kiss the mirror. In the twisties I still do it all the time - it helps TONS with flickability, bike control and confidence. During this last track day I seem to have left the mirror-kissing routine - instead I was going faster by leaning more and working on the rhythm. Next year I'll try to do both....
Thanks to your reply I'm able to put the two practices in relative perspective 

Quote from: stopintime on September 16, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
Yep, I know - I'm going faster than quite a few of the hanging off riders so my rhythm and smoothness are probably working well(ish).

Rhythm/carrying speed is key to finding the fastest line for any given track. That's one of the reasons that the Ninja 250 has its own (very competitive) race series.

Quote from: stopintime on September 16, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
I'm just saying that if I want to go faster, with most/all lean angle used, I will probably have to put more weight on the inside. Not that I have to, but it's nice to have some challenges on the Monster before I seriously start thinking SBK.

If you're comfortable leaning a Monster THAT FAR over, AND you are comfortable leaning your upper body off the bike, then you're much closer to SBK status than most riders I know.

You're right, it does help with flickability. It's all a matter of leading with your "biggest asset." 

Quote from: Obsessed? on September 22, 2009, 08:39:43 PM
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You're right, it does help with flickability. It's all a matter of leading with your "biggest asset." 

my biggest asset is tucked in just behind the tank and it would look strange leaning him over 

Quote from: stopintime on September 22, 2009, 11:52:38 PM
my biggest asset is tucked in just behind the tank and it would look strange leaning him over 

Hero member, indeed.

Here is a action picture from my last track day at Thunderhill