when you say, best wait for the goodies... are you talking to us 696 owners?

do you know something Raux? come on! spill it Raux!

If you look at the 1100, which probably uses a very similar sub frame as the 696, it's in a different location compared to the MiniTard.  Chances are, it wouldn't be a plug-n-play mod, but might be still able to be done.

the locations are way different. you basically would have to make sure the HM shock can lean forward enough in the swingarm to reach the 696 shock mount point and then add about 2 inches to its length to reach. then make sure the shock angle doesn't hit anything on the back of the motor.

tell you what. since my bike is apart, someone give me a HM rear w/wheel to test it. 

Quote from: ducatitorrey on October 05, 2009, 09:05:56 AM
when you say, best wait for the goodies... are you talking to us 696 owners?

do you know something Raux? come on! spill it Raux!

do this comparison with a 696 not an 1100, the 1100 is a completely different engine, i agree though, here this looks way off

yes, but the 696/1100 frames look like they are basically the same, including the frame shock mount point.  The MiniTard uses a different frame & Frame mount point, which is not as deep in the frame as the 696/1100, I'm not sure that the shock would clear the exhaust & motor.  I will say this, the 696 does mount it's shock off to the left side of the DSS swing arm, roughly in the same  place as the 1100.  Maybe the 1100 would be a better donor?  If the HM uses the same case, then maybe it's not so much a question of engine case structural suitability as finding the donor swing arm with the right geometry?

i personally think an 1100 would direct fit a 696.

one of the things to check though would be the angle of the swingarm. the 1100 sits higher. so the front of the 696 would have to be raised to compensate.

i think thats just the length of the ohlins though.

the 1100 is the hyper engine though right?

the top mount for the shock on both the 696 and 1100 go onto a clevis that bolts to the frame.  The 696 clevis piece has a shorter shoulder on it vs the 1100 clevis.  We have used the 696 clevis on the 1100's to lower them in the rear to match the 696 height. 
The Hyper uses a rear linkage system similar to the SBK series.

good to see someone knows what theyre talking about

thanks

Quote from: Dave R on October 05, 2009, 02:18:22 PM
the top mount for the shock on both the 696 and 1100 go onto a clevis that bolts to the frame.  The 696 clevis piece has a shorter shoulder on it vs the 1100 clevis.  We have used the 696 clevis on the 1100's to lower them in the rear to match the 696 height. 
The Hyper uses a rear linkage system similar to the SBK series.

oooo oooo so an 1100 clevis would raise the 696? tell me more

thank you Raux, missed that!!!!

Quote from: Raux on October 05, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
oooo oooo so an 1100 clevis would raise the 696? tell me more

Yes it would and we have two or three take offs we would be happy to sell...
took about 20 minutes to swap out

where are you located and how much? something i can do on my own, im pretty good with tools, as long as internal combustion isn't in the picture.

We are closed today but if you would like to give Jon in parts a call on Tuesday we will get you set up..  Under $50 for sure..  You need to put a jack under the motor to hold it up while you swap out the clevis.  Here is a picture of the two different ones..  the 1100 one on the right has the larger shoulder..  you can see where and how they bolt up..