Quote from: He Man on December 01, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
how about wearing a thin summer glove underneath and XXS heated glove on top? I can ask my gf to put on her size XS icon pursuit gloves and then stick them in my XS gerbings for you if you like. thats unless i already mentioned this before. It really sucks that you girls with small hands have absolutely no options as far as heated gloves go

I kinda know how you feel though. Gerbings run down to XXS, im wearing XS and my gf can put her hand in it and still have about 3/4 inch until she hits the tips.

Unfortunately it hurts my hands after a little while of gripping the handlebars if my gloves are too big or I have too many layers on.  I have the same issue with thick bicycling gloves.

Quote from: ato memphis on December 01, 2009, 04:06:30 PM
pee in your gloves before putting them on and they'll be pretty warm for the first bit of the ride...

at least that works in scuba diving... (ahem, don't try it in a dry suit...)

Quote from: somegirl on December 01, 2009, 05:04:08 PM
Unfortunately it hurts my hands after a little while of gripping the handlebars if my gloves are too big or I have too many layers on.  I have the same issue with thick bicycling gloves.

alright last suggestion, put a uranium rod into your handle bar. the radioactive decay will keep your hands warm from the inside out! 

Quote from: He Man on December 01, 2009, 06:07:51 PM
alright last suggestion, put a uranium rod into your handle bar. the radioactive decay will keep your hands warm from the inside out! 

oh no you didn't.  wait, let me check ebay

Check out snowmobile gloves.  FXR's have 350g thinsulate on the back and 200g in the palm.  I rode mine home from work one morning last winter when it was 9 degrees and .......your thinking i am gonna lie and say my hands stayed warm, but.....I froze my ass off.  However, my hands were still functional and not hurting.  An added bonus, most snowmobile gloves have little squeegies on the thumb that work great as visor wipers. 

If you are thinking about handguards, check out Rox PowerMadds.  They look better than regular off road handguards and Rox makes machined aluminum one piece mounts that are super simple and fast to install and uninstall. 
http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/cart/showitems.cgi?subcat_id=279

I can get pictures of them installed if anyone is interested.

Quote from: somegirl on December 01, 2009, 03:57:06 PM
I agree the heated grips are not sufficient when it is in the 30s-40s, but heated gloves are not an option for all of us.

get the glove liners. they are smaller.
also check out the tourmaster synergy stuff. i believe they have smaller gloves.

and heated grips dont' do shit for you below 40. the pals stays warm, but the thumb and the top of the hand freeze.

Quote from: psycledelic on December 02, 2009, 02:07:25 AM
If you are thinking about handguards, check out Rox PowerMadds.  They look better than regular off road handguards and Rox makes machined aluminum one piece mounts that are super simple and fast to install and uninstall. 
http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/cart/showitems.cgi?subcat_id=279

I can get pictures of them installed if anyone is interested.

those are the ones i have installed! i had to move my levers in about 1/8" to get it to all fit properly, but they work wonderfully esp in the rain and snow.

Quote from: He Man on December 01, 2009, 03:32:51 PM
i had Dualstar heated grips on my bike for 2 years. my commute is 70mph highway speeds + city traffic @ 15-40degrees for about 1:30 hours. Grips dont cut it. they keep your palm toasty, which is pointless when the wind is blowing at the back of your hand. 40 degrees is still fair weather riding.

Dual star heated grips suck. I used to think they were OK until I got Oxfords. Now I think they suck.

Heated grips suck below about 35. Below about 40-45 you also need good cold weather gloves (thin palm and thicker outside). Agreed grips have limitations, but they're far from worthless. It all depends on your intended use.

IMO...riding below 35 sucks no matter how you cut it!   15 is just friggin' stupid!  

Knight...haven't you had a bunch of pairs of heated gloves fail...mainly the clutch hand?

Quote from: Triple J on December 02, 2009, 10:36:08 AM
Dual star heated grips suck. I used to think they were OK until I got Oxfords. Now I think they suck.

Heated grips suck below about 35. Below about 40-45 you also need good cold weather gloves (thin palm and thicker outside). Agreed grips have limitations, but they're far from worthless. It all depends on your intended use.

IMO...riding below 35 sucks no matter how you cut it!   15 is just friggin' stupid!  

Knight...haven't you had a bunch of pairs of heated gloves fail...mainly the clutch hand?

i agree with everything you have said. esp the part about riding when it's really freaking cold.

a big part of the reason they failed is the wire they used was too thin and would break.
that's an issue when you i'm riding through traffic every day. one day i tried to count how many times i pulled in the clutch. i lost count after about 150 times and my ride was only halfway over. i was also getting to the part where all the lights and more traffic is.

i was an inadvertent product tester.

i havne't had much trouble for the past year and a half *knock on wood* aside from having a connector break from flexing on a sub 10 degree day

by the way, i have a backup for in case my gloves go out.

those thin chemical hand warmer packets.

I wear thinsulate thin glove liners under my Alpinestars. So far, they work well. My hands aren't warm but they're not freezing either.

Quote from: KnightofNi on December 02, 2009, 11:19:32 AM

i was an inadvertent product tester.

i havne't had much trouble for the past year and a half *knock on wood* aside from having a connector break from flexing on a sub 10 degree day

I will let you know how my Heated microwire gerbings go. i probably pull in the clutch about 100-200 times a day, with some of them modulating the clutch in for 10-15 minutes at a time, so my hands pretty much always on it.

since microwire doesnt actually have a wire, im hoping they dont break...keyword hoping

i actually like the full gloves, i will wear glove liners when it gets below 30 on a regular basis, but they add a bit too much bulk to be able to do it all the time.

besides, i spent the money heated gloves and dont' want to spend more money on glove liners that will make my gloves thicker all the time. 

though they might be a decent back-up.

I have heated grips and hand guards on my Vstrom and had heated grips on a prior bike.  I also have a variety of gloves, including a pair of cold weather golves with liners.  I recently bought a pair of Gerbing heated gloves and I tried in the store a pair of the Gerbing glove liners.  My 2 cents:

• As noted above, heated grips are only good down to about 40 degrees for rides over 30 minutes.  Even with the hand guards, my fingertips and thumb get too cold especially at speed.
• I hate glove liners and bulky gloves because I can't feel squat.  Especially on the Duc where finesse in brake, clutch and throttle is pretty important.  The Vstrom is more forgiving of being hamfisted.
• Heated gear rocks and I waited way too long to get some.

Another thing...getting a heated jacket or vest will make heated grips (or winter gloves, heated gloves, etc) more effective by keeping your core temp. up and thus allowing better circulation into your fingers. It's pretty amazing how well it works.

Quote from: Triple J on December 04, 2009, 06:59:13 AM
Another thing...getting a heated jacket or vest will make heated grips (or winter gloves, heated gloves, etc) more effective by keeping your core temp. up and thus allowing better circulation into your fingers. It's pretty amazing how well it works.

if you have bad circulation already then it doens't help that much