All the same corner!  No wonder there's a crowd.

So-Cal squids 

http://www.youtube.com/v/wWsnw1A5ee4&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/WNrp1Jzs7pg&hl=en&fs=1&


http://www.youtube.com/v/UtyCkHL5A7g&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/ZWNAJ3uG9i0&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/j-tdrf8nrQQ&hl=en&fs=1&


http://www.youtube.com/v/Gz3CUAjE138&hl=en&fs=1&"

http://www.youtube.com/v/3mhXJiHluOg&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/VkalHQ6eRVw&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/J0wHLjGGpiY&hl=en&fs=1&

http://www.youtube.com/v/q1Jj2NhDYq4&hl=en&fs=1&

I bet that turn is off-camber there...looks like a lot of them are spinning up the back wheel...all of a sudden like.

A couple of them didn't really react to the rear wheel spin.. Surely they felt it.. Looked like they had time to react to it.. Traction control would have saved most of those.

Quote from: sally101 on December 03, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
A couple of them didn't really react to the rear wheel spin.. Surely they felt it.. Looked like they had time to react to it.. Traction control would have saved most of those.

Dunno...it takes a fine hand to react to a rear wheel spin. React too much and you'll be over the high side...and probably over that guard rail. TC might have helped, but who knows...it often works within a narrow range. And if the pavement there is truly screwed up, it might not matter. And if you're riding on the street hard enough to need traction control, you've got bigger problems

They all crashed in the exact same spot. The exact same. A problem with the road there?!

That said, I won't cry on these guys: no leather, no boots (the guy with the R6 rode with sneakers?)... No wonder why insurance cost are so high!

Quote from: Le Piou on December 03, 2009, 06:04:52 PM
They all crashed in the exact same spot. The exact same. A problem with the road there?!

Actually some of them crashed at the guardrail portion of the turn while others crashed later on into the hillside.  Maybe that suggests that there's two apexes in that turn--perhaps that's why they're crashing more at the 2nd part?  They think they've made it through and perhaps the turn tightens a little more than expected.  One guy left a real distinct darkie.  I'm not sure what causes that--just too much speed?  Hitting the brakes and too much speed? 

Clearly it's a known spot, since there appear to be a horde of videographers standing on the hill waiting for someone to wad their bike. So, like that janky turn on Tam, you think they'd just slow the make the beast with two backs down at that section.

That looks like a section near the Rock Store. I rode it on my monster when I was visiting, and there didn't appear to be any really horrible corners that I could see. But then I wasn't trying to drag a knee.  

Maybe some of the SoCal folks can weigh in on what's going on here.


Edit: I think this is the spot: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rock+store&sll=34.100345,-118.803213&sspn=0.002523,0.005681&ie=UTF8&radius=0.16&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=rock+store&hnear=&ll=34.1009,-118.803942&spn=0,359.994319&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=34.100805,-118.803636&panoid=dDe5HNhtCDUeJAVW-d8Khw&cbp=12,315.82,,0,12.14

Quote from: Michael Moore on December 03, 2009, 07:29:47 PM
Clearly it's a known spot, since there appear to be a horde of videographers standing on the hill waiting for someone to wad their bike. So, like that janky turn on Tam, you think they'd just slow the make the beast with two backs down at that section.

Yes, well, it's probably safe to say that there was a fair amount of knuckle-dragging going on there well before any bikes hit the dirt. 

Well, I posed the question in the SoCal board, so we'll see what the local intel has to say.

I love the one link with the adverts for Colitis Symptoms and Accident Attorneys. Maybe they're sponsors for these guys?

Quote from: Michael Moore on December 03, 2009, 07:43:44 PM
Well, I posed the question in the SoCal board, so we'll see what the local intel has to say.

So did you phrase it like this?

"Yo d00dz.  Y u be eatin' shizzle all da time in dat corna, broz.  Dont u no it be uber uncoolish to be waddin' yo sweet ride like dat?  Whattup?"

I liked the Lotus.

Quote from: mostrobelle on December 03, 2009, 08:34:32 PM
So did you phrase it like this?

"Yo d00dz.  Y u be eatin' shizzle all da time in dat corna, broz.  Dont u no it be uber uncoolish to be waddin' yo sweet ride like dat?  Whattup?"

Jeez, Nick doesn't talk like that at all.

Now if I was posting in the Gixxer forum... 

MM did correctly identify that corner.
I think the huge supply of YouTube vids of that particular corner is due to there being a couple good spots to shoot from and it's proximity to the Rock Store.

I've not gone through that corner at the speeds those guys were attempting.
I don't recall that the surface was bad, pretty much like the rest of Mulholland.

The first 2/3 of that corner is pretty steep uphill, but it flattens off toward the exit.
Also, the camber/banking flattens off too.
I'm pretty sure that's what's getting 'em.

Quote from: desmoquattro on December 03, 2009, 05:18:02 PM
And if you're riding on the street hard enough to need traction control, you've got bigger problems

Well yeah.. They were all dragging knees (or trying).. They got their comeupins..