Is it even possible to have one installed on a diesel vehicle?

My wife would like one for work as that thing seriously takes about 20 minutes to heat up and produce any amount of heat, not to mention runs like shit if it has not warmed up for 5-10 minutes when it is cold.

the reason I am asking is because of the glow-plug mechanism involved.

For those of you not familiar, when you put the key in, the glow-plug light comes on and then when it turns off, you are ready to start the vehicle.

So my question is......if you had a remote start, would it automatically try to kick the car over? I couldn't imagine that being very good on the start, engine, etc.



thoughts?

the immobilizer system is more difficult to overcome then the glow plugs..

I really, really, really suggest not letting it sit and idle to get warm.

it will take forever to warm up and you plug the EGR cooler and intake manifold in a hurry this way.

does she have a place where she can plug it in? if so the best option is the block heater.

I "think" this is the part number for the OEM one.

JNV-198-006-A

I know the Canadians got them, and you may have to get one from a canadian dealer.. World impex used to carry them.

http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/genuine-part-heater_929500.html

there is also a aftermarket one called zero start or something of that nature. it was remote controlled and plugged into the battery, I belive you had to get a batter with a higher Ah rating (factory was like 80)

if I remember more about it I'll post it up.

oh yeah, do you have a CEL? if it running rough it might have a glow plug out.

agreed plug it in with a timer have it on for 2-3 hours before start up had a Jetta and Golf diesels for 10 years each 550k on the Jetta

also only use the "true" block heater  not an inline one

glow plugs and start up time-
glow plugs operate by heating up the cylinder wall to the point where the combination of high compression and temperature create ignition (as opposed to spark plugs.) the colder engine (and the coolant), the longer it will take the glow plugs to warm the cylinder walls to ignition temperature.
-interesting side note...many of todays diesel engines dont even have glow plugs, using direct injection instead

diesel block heater-
block heaters keep your engine block and coolant warm enough to avoid hard starting due to the cold. get an in line sensor (on the extension cord) which only pushes juice when the outside temp is below 50 degrees. then just plug it in every night. or just plug it in every night from mid september until mid april (results may vary depending on your climate.)

warm up time-
according to this article idling your vw tdi is a waste of time. start it up, wait for the oil pressure to reach operating temp, and go. 

Block Heater!

or park the car inside, in that space in front of your fireplace you say is now available.

To answer your question, yes it's possible. The one on my truck has provisions for setting a time delay for use with diesel engines.

Quote from: howie on February 06, 2010, 04:00:25 PM
Block Heater!

been drinking tonight so havent looked through all the posts, but thanks for everyone that responded and will read tomorrow.

I was told by the dealer that an engine block heater by VW is not made as their "glow plug" does not need one and they don't make one for a 2004.

But from above, that might be incorrect.


Thanks for all you responses and will read in the AM.


- Jud

I do not believe the TDI's have immobiliser like other MKIV VW's.

Thats said I don't think a remote start will help your situation.  I have a 99.5 Golf TDI I have had for years, and they just don't make heat while idling.  You need to drive them to warm them up.  Thats just the way it is with TDI's.  Next one I get when this thing finally dies will have heated seats  (no sign of it dying yet though at 235K). 

Sorry, I wish I had a better solution to offer ya. 

Also,  I you haven't already find someone local who has VAG-COM to turn down/off your EGR so it doesn't clog your intake manifold.  You may look on www.tdiclub.com for info regarding remote starts and block heaters.   There is a ton of great knowledge there.

Diesel is barbaric and outdated. 

Quote from: turbodude on February 06, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I do not believe the TDI's have immobiliser like other MKIV VW's.

Thats said I don't think a remote start will help your situation.  I have a 99.5 Golf TDI I have had for years, and they just don't make heat while idling.  You need to drive them to warm them up.  Thats just the way it is with TDI's.  Next one I get when this thing finally dies will have heated seats  (no sign of it dying yet though at 235K). 

Sorry, I wish I had a better solution to offer ya. 

your 99.5 doesn't 01 and up is immobilizer equipped.

Quote from: MrIncredible on February 06, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Diesel is barbaric and outdated. 

Seen any results from the 24hrs at Le Mans for the last few years  

Thanks all for the information.


I checked out the TDI Forum and you guys are right.......remote start won't work.

My car goes in for 80k service in about 5k miles and I found a local (non-dealer) shop that does all factory maintenance to spec, etc.

The mechanic is an ex-dealer one (from Midwest Auto Group....usually gets annual service awards), so the car will be in good hands.

I might call ahead to see about getting an engine block heater installed.

Thanks all.



I didn't know that you weren't supposed to let diesels idle.


Why do big rigs never shut off their trucks???

Rigs stay running to keep the electrical appliances running such as refrigerator and A/C.

My brother in law drives trucks for a living.