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Wires melting on my 600?

Started by Vinnnn, February 09, 2010, 02:35:05 AM

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ozducati

just be careful you don't cook the new battery, sounds almost certainly like your regulator's gone..

bigiain

Quote from: ozducati on February 10, 2010, 06:13:45 PM
just be careful you don't cook the new battery, sounds almost certainly like your regulator's gone..

+1 _don't_ run it with the new battery without checking that reg.

I'd also have a good look at the alternator wiring - check the bunch of wires that come out of the front of the left hand engine sidecover, it's possible for a dying reg to cook the stator windings as well as the battery... If it's done that it'll mostly end up with obvious heat damage to the wiring and connector down there...

big

Vinnnn

Ok, took off the regulator tonight. Found pretty bad burns just on top of it, but the wires going into the regulator look ok.
My old battery is full of water and on charge now, tomorrow morning will conduct the test. Just hook the voltmeter to the battery terminals and try to start the engine? From what Ive read, Im looking for a variation in the voltage as I rev the engine?
Also, last few times I have had to pop up the fuel tank I have noticed moisture on top of the battery, but the water level looked pretty normal. Im thinking this is pretty important.
Im hoping it isnt my alternator, but it was a long ride and at the end of it I could turn my bike on and off no problems.
Thanks so much for this guys, you've been a huge help. Cant wait till a thread opens up that I can help with, haha.

ducatiz

Acid burn?  Battery splattered?  Neutralize it fast.  Might have to wire brush the spots where it ate thru the paint if any.  Battery acid will dry and crystalize and reactivate with moisture.

I am sorry to say I told you it was the regulator.  I put a charge light on mine from Kurykuran (SP?) that is a tiny LED readout of voltage output.  US$30 and it's been very helpful. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Vinnnn

Are regulators expensive? How bad, argh..

ducatiz

Quote from: Vinnnn on February 11, 2010, 04:41:08 AM
Are regulators expensive? How bad, argh..

not so much for that bike.  google Electrex, they make good aftermarket regs.  i think i paid $125 for mine..
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Vinnnn

:| What are you doing up at 2:30, lol
Ah yeh, cool, thats not so bad. Looking at about 230 after I buy the battery too. About expected anyway. Is it just plug and play, or is there a lot of rewiring?

ducatiz

#22
Its not 230 here in DC!

Basic wiring.  Might have to crimp a spade or connector. Heat shrink the ends.  The Electrex unit comes with good instructions and you can find howtos on the web.  Worst part will be your acid cleanup!

here it is:

Electrex RR51

turns out its the same model for pretty much every pre-EFI ducati, cagiva, laverda and guzzi. Still US$100 (or thereabouts)>
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

monstermick58

Acid clean-up = bi-carb of soda, every general food store will sell it, mix it to a watery paste and paint it on affected areas then use copious amounts of water to rinse off, thats copious (lots) amounts of water






                                    Mmick
This won't hurt much.... Trust me......

Stinky Wizzleteats

AAH!

You're the owner of teh black 600 I often see at Mac Square.

Nice, clean looking bike you have there, hope you get it going soon!

I have nothing else to add. Sorry.  :P


Wood Duck (aka Super)

Former Monster Owner :'(
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bikeless

wood duck are good eating , not long now to duck season , ceep ya head low super ,aka wood duck  [cheeky]

monstermick58

Jeeze you bikeless woodDucks keep popping up, not that there is anything wrong with that  ;D   [thumbsup]



                        Mmick
This won't hurt much.... Trust me......

Vinnnn

Hey WoodDuck, buy another monster and we should all go for a ride :D
Managed to track down a possible used regulator (new they are $240), picking it up tomorrow, along with a new battery.
Now, someone mentioned the stator... Should I test that before I install the parts? How do I test it?
mmick, will try the acid cleanup tomorrow. Will then be after colour matching paint.. but maybe that's for a different thread, lol

ducatiz

Quote from: Vinnnn on February 12, 2010, 04:32:13 AM
Hey WoodDuck, buy another monster and we should all go for a ride :D
Managed to track down a possible used regulator (new they are $240), picking it up tomorrow, along with a new battery.

Vin, I wouldn't put in a used model unless you know the source and it was a very very cheap deal.  The electrex models are warranteed and widely used.. 

You can have the stator tested, but you'll have to send it out. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Vinnnn

Ducatiz;
Yeah here in Aus the prices are inflated for some reason.. To buy a new reg they quoted me about $200 USD, which is a little more that what I wanted to spend, the refurb is only $60 USD.. Might have to end up just shipping one in, the importers here are pirates.