Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 05:04:21 AM
i was thinking of the p90 one. all i know is from the commercials. how intense is it?

i hate ab work with a passion, and dont' really have room to do things like that at home.

Really intense.  I really like the fact that it is a full body workout.  Also the cardio is real strength oriented and involves making all your muscles work at the same time.  There is some ab work (15 minute 3x week).  You do need a chin-up bar, enough floor space to lay down for push ups other upper body stuff, and either a set of resistance bands or dumbbells.  My chin up bar is outside, so I pause the thing and run outside. If you are tall, you'll need adequate ceiling height.  Some of the cardio moves have me touching the ceiling with my head (I'm 6'4" and my ceilings are just over 8').  Also I touch the ceiling during standing should presses.   

Quote from: angler on March 04, 2010, 06:18:42 AM
Really intense.  I really like the fact that it is a full body workout.  Also the cardio is real strength oriented and involves making all your muscles work at the same time.  There is some ab work (15 minute 3x week).  You do need a chin-up bar, enough floor space to lay down for push ups other upper body stuff, and either a set of resistance bands or dumbbells.  My chin up bar is outside, so I pause the thing and run outside. If you are tall, you'll need adequate ceiling height.  Some of the cardio moves have me touching the ceiling with my head (I'm 6'4" and my ceilings are just over 8').  Also I touch the ceiling during standing should presses.   

i have no chin-up bar or a place to put it.

if i stand up and rach over my head my palm can go flat against the ceiling. i don't think i will be able to do this one at home. 
it's a shame because i would really like to give it a try and see if i end up ripped like the guys in the ads. lol

Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 06:26:45 AM
i have no chin-up bar or a place to put it.

if i stand up and rach over my head my palm can go flat against the ceiling. i don't think i will be able to do this one at home. 
it's a shame because i would really like to give it a try and see if i end up ripped like the guys in the ads. lol

They do have alternates to chin ups using resistance bands.  I'm not a fan of resistance bands.......

Quote from: angler on March 04, 2010, 06:55:30 AM
They do have alternates to chin ups using resistance bands.  I'm not a fan of resistance bands.......

did i mention that i'm also quite cheap?
i would rather not buy a training course and have to buy equip for it as well. lol

i wonder if old innertubes will work. lol.

Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 07:22:43 AM
did i mention that i'm also quite cheap?
i would rather not buy a training course and have to buy equip for it as well. lol

i wonder if old innertubes will work. lol.

It is easily available from most torrent sites, including all documents, books, 13 DVD`s etc. Downloadable in one file. Just sayin.

Quote from: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 05:14:31 AM
Tabata workouts? No, I'll have to check those out! I feel so much better today. I was just exhausted last night.

I decided that I'm going to start doing a mid-day workout at lunch here at work. There's a very low traffic stairwell on the back side of the building that I work in and it runs I think 14 or 18 flights of stairs up to the roof. So I'm going to start working in 3 days a week of stair sprints and push-ups. I may also pick up a jump rope to use in between sets.

Nearly everyone that I talk to about the P90x says that it's great and that most of the popularized trainers today use a method of their own that they copied from the philosophy of P90x - ie working as many muscles in a short period of time as possible to maximize caloric burn effectiveness and muscle impact. Though I'm not doing it, it wouldn't think it a bad investment - especially if you can borrow someones and try it first! 

That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..

Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..

I just got back from my lunch workout. I did sprints up the set of stairwell that I mentioned earlier (12 flights) and really worked on hitting every step and getting my knees high with each step burst. What was neat was seeing my heart rate climb higher each time I reached the top. First it was around 160, then 168, then 172, then 176, all the way up to 184! After I completed I think 8 round trips, I went outside (its a beautiful and sunny 64 degrees day) and ran 1/2 mile and did 3 sets of dips, and 3 sets of pushups. Not bad for a quick 33 minute workout and I burned 509 calories.  

Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..

Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..

You still can. That's what everyone else is doing!! If you could somehow get Chuck Norris to do it for you, you'd sell a ton! 

For tht I do it as his son, everyone says I look like him.. lol, I'm rican but look white -shrugs- has its advantages some times..

 

Quote from: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
I just got back from my lunch workout. I did sprints up the set of stairwell that I mentioned earlier (12 flights) and really worked on hitting every step and getting my knees high with each step burst. What was neat was seeing my heart rate climb higher each time I reached the top. First it was around 160, then 168, then 172, then 176, all the way up to 184! After I completed I think 8 round trips, I went outside (its a beautiful and sunny 64 degrees day) and ran 1/2 mile and did 3 sets of dips, and 3 sets of pushups. Not bad for a quick 33 minute workout and I burned 509 calories.  


You still can. That's what everyone else is doing!! If you could somehow get Chuck Norris to do it for you, you'd sell a ton! 

We used to do those in the FD with our gear and 75lb hose packs - it hurts the soul so good! While you were running i was having a nice cup of coffee at epic cafe on 4th! We're headin to the gym tonight and im gonna try and get in on that spin class with the instructor you were telllin me about.


and as far as P90x, if anybody wants it i've got on in movie files on my HDD and im pretty sure i have all the diet stuff in pdf as well. Just let me know

Stair training is intense..  I think its better harder then most things..  when training for FD, I would go up n down stairs with a 40lbs weighted vest.. too bad they cancled my class and now I'm too old to get in (ny cutoff is 30)..  I gotta start doing those again..

Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..

Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..

Coming up with a name & a marketing plan that convinces people your program is NEW! and also IMPROVED! is the trick.

And if it inspires people to be more active & get fit in ways that don't hurt them, I don't mind a bit if someone makes some good money by repackaging some basic ideas of exercise physiology.

i've gotten back in the weight room, started back a few months ago.

i should never have left. Its so frustrating to not be putting up the same #'s i was before. i do mostly classical lifts and the squat/deadlift is coming back pretty quick, but pull-ups/chin-ups and the bench press are a bit slow coming it seems.

as a large mammal, big weights has always been a great source of stress relief. Its quite fun to see the bar bend. i set a goal of of a grand for the combined press/squat/pull # and i'm getting closer. i very much like that SMU has an olympic lifting platform, but i hate, with every fiber of my being, the squat-rack curls guy, and that every gym finds it necessary to purchase smith machines. (no big surprise so many people have knee injuries on the field after using this "safe" machine that removes any development of stabilizing muscles and balancing).

Quote from: ato memphis on March 04, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
and that every gym finds it necessary to purchase smith machines. (no big surprise so many people have knee injuries on the field after using this "safe" machine that removes any development of stabilizing muscles and balancing).

They have their place, but I agree that they short-circut a lot of the true benefit of weight training.  I think the stabilization issue and increased injury connection is probably valid.

Used as a tool to develop proper form with lighter weights before going unsupported, or as a rehab option for injuries, the Smith can be pretty valuable.  Not the worst thing for working w/o a spotter, either.



So, uh...
///Chris Farley voice/// "howmuchyabench?"

Bench:Sets of 5 at 235; Squat: Sets of 5 at 335; Deadlift: Sets of 3 at 365 (without straps, more with straps since my fingers can't get tired prematurely on me). Can only do 5 good pull-ups in a row though, nothing frustrates me more. I weigh 238 with shoes/shorts/shirt on as of Tuesday.

The guy I work out with benches what I squat for reps, so its giving quite a lot of motivation to work harder. The wife is pushing in the other direction, to keep me injury free.