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Why the leg out?

Started by orangelion03, June 10, 2010, 02:17:11 PM

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fastwin

Maybe my joke post about it was right after all!! [laugh]

MendoDave

I don't know if it comes from MX or not, but if you look at this video, although it isn't mentioned, on just about every turn, the inside leg is out and up forward toward the forks. This is the "Outrigger technique" and pretty much anybody that races motocross, or even rides off road uses this to get around corners faster. I couldn't even tell you how this helps on a road course, but when I first started riding on the street. I had to "un-learn" this and start cornering differently.

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Blackout

Pretty sure I saw Troy Bayliss doing this before Rossi.
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fastwin

Wow. Hadn't thought about this in forever but I was just watching a TIVO'd WSBK racing from Miller last year that SPEEDTV is showing right now and the only single rider in WSBK that even occasionally threw their leg out "Rossi Style" was Crutchlow. That's it. No other WSBK rider ever did it. Why MotoGP only and not WSBK? WTF??? What would be the difference?
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The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

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gm2

imaginary coping mechanism for the increased power, and braking power, of the GP bikes
Like this is the racing, no?

Jester

Quote from: gm2 on February 08, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
imaginary coping mechanism for the increased power, and braking power, of the GP bikes

This.


I don't recall Jorge ever putting out his leg and he has no problem riding by everyone that does.
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fastwin

Yeah, now that I am used to seeing a handful doing it in every MotoGP it was noticably absent while watching the Miller re-run the other night. Crutchlow was the only WSBK rider doing it (at least at 2010's Miller races) and it was just here and there. Funny how I've become used to seeing it now. Although I have never seen it catch on here in the States. Have never noticed it in AMA SBK or Daytona Sportbike. Just as well. Probably would look stupid. :P
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I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Triple J

Bayliss used to do it as well sometimes.

gm2

Quote from: Triple J on February 09, 2011, 04:56:45 PM
Bayliss used to do it as well sometimes.

if Bayliss did it it was because it was absolutely necessary at the time   [evil]
Like this is the racing, no?

ducpainter

Quote from: gm2 on February 09, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
if Bayliss did it it was because it was absolutely necessary at the time   [evil]
Not Troy...

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Quote from: gm2 on February 09, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
if Bayliss did it it was because it was absolutely necessary at the time   [evil]

[laugh] [thumbsup]

He doesn't stick it out anywhere as far as the GP guys though, at least not that I can find video of. I've seen him do it more than this video...just can't remember when. Derby probably knows...along with what the track temperature was at the time.  [cheeky]

Here at 0:34
Troy Bayliss - SBK Last Lap

Spidey

Pedroda also used to do it well before Rossi started, but I think that was his foot coming off during braking. 

That Haslam article is useless.  All it says is that he doesn't feel comfortable doing it. 

The interesting thing is that data says that it does load the front tire a bit more (though not a ton).  In a world where shifting body position by a few milimeters makes all the difference for the 'feel' of the bike, that's gotta make a difference.  In the end, whatever works to go fast, no matter what it looks like.


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Quote from: Spidey on February 11, 2011, 08:53:08 AM
Pedroda ....

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Triple J

I predict Rossi won't do it anymore on the Ducati...confusing everyone, and starting a bunch of "why no leg out" threads!  ;D