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Started by gm2, January 21, 2010, 09:23:28 AM

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desmoquattro

Quote from: zooom on June 24, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
my only question is this....the 15million euro's being offfered....does it come from Ducati, or from Marlboro?....Rossi has said in the past how he has a rather distaste for cigarette sponsorship ( hence how Galouise quickly ceased being a sponsor prominantly displayed on Rossi's Yamaha M1 bike ( instead displaying "GOOOOOO!!!!!!" ) and then soon was replaced with other sponsorship....Rossi has happily driven a Marlboro sponsored Ferrarri and I hardly see Marlboro going anywhere without a fight...and though Rossi can link himself to many a speculative sponsor (see some of the many photoshops of the Sedici with Rossi number and sponsorship of Fiat, Martini, etc. plastered on the bike)...but Marlboro has the capital and IS willing to spend it.....so in the end...how does that figure in the equation?!?!?!

Red Bull is rumored to be considering sponsoring a GP team to counteract the Monster Energy sponsorship...just sayin :)
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'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

derby

Quote from: zooom on June 24, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
my only question is this....the 15million euro's being offfered....does it come from Ducati, or from Marlboro?....

(ultimately) marlboro

Quote from: zooom on June 24, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
Rossi has said in the past how he has a rather distaste for cigarette sponsorship ( hence how Galouise quickly ceased being a sponsor prominantly displayed on Rossi's Yamaha M1 bike ( instead displaying "GOOOOOO!!!!!!" ) and then soon was replaced with other sponsorship....

the "GOOOOOOO!!!!!" was more due to tobacco advertising laws.

Quote from: zooom on June 24, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
Rossi has happily driven a Marlboro sponsored Ferrarri and I hardly see Marlboro going anywhere without a fight...and though Rossi can link himself to many a speculative sponsor (see some of the many photoshops of the Sedici with Rossi number and sponsorship of Fiat, Martini, etc. plastered on the bike)...but Marlboro has the capital and IS willing to spend it.....so in the end...how does that figure in the equation?!?!?!

how will it figure into the equation? did you see what they (reportedly) offered lorenzo when casey was sidelined?
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zooom

Quote from: derby on June 24, 2010, 09:49:04 AM
how will it figure into the equation? did you see what they (reportedly) offered lorenzo when casey was sidelined?

but Lorenzo doesn't have a problem or a conflict with cigarette sponsorship....so that doesn't matter...Rossi lining up sponsors for the bike either to replace or coincide with Marlboro changes the tune, hence my 2nd question...

Quote from: desmoquattro on June 24, 2010, 09:43:16 AM
Red Bull is rumored to be considering sponsoring a GP team to counteract the Monster Energy sponsorship...just sayin :)

and I heard that as well...but I thought it was rumored to be linked to the Zuke as a replacement for Rizla...
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98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
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Spidey

Quote from: gm2 on June 24, 2010, 08:16:55 AM
http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/24/rossi_s_dilemma_15_million_euros_at_duca.html

15mm Euro = $18.5 million

That is a good deal more than Yamaha have offered the Italian. Rossi is reportedly currently under contract for some 14 million euros, but had been in discussions with Yamaha prior to Mugello about reducing his salary to between 9 and 10 million euros. That reduction was being driven by the need to cut costs, and the Corriere dello Sport is reporting that Rossi was looking favorably upon the salary cut, and had expressed a desire to finish his career at Yamaha.

But it appears that part of that salary cut is needed to fund a doubling of Jorge Lorenzo's contract, from 4 million in 2010 to 8 million in 2011. This, understandably, has left Rossi much less amenable to taking the pay cut, and probably more disposed to consider other options.




O.U.C.H. .  I'd move to Ducati too.
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duccarlos

Take a 5 million Euro pay cut so that we can give it to your teammate/closest competitor.
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desmoquattro

Quote from: duccarlos on June 24, 2010, 10:00:23 AM
Take a 5 million Euro pay cut so that we can give it to your teammate/closest competitor.

...or ride a red bike, make more money, and fulfill the dreams and wishes of millions...
My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

Spidey

Quote from: duccarlos on June 24, 2010, 10:00:23 AM
Take a 5 million Euro pay cut so that we can give it to your teammate/closest competitor whose bike you developed for them.

Fixed. 
Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.

desmoquattro

My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

derby

Quote from: zooom on June 24, 2010, 09:53:48 AM
but Lorenzo doesn't have a problem or a conflict with cigarette sponsorship....so that doesn't matter...Rossi lining up sponsors for the bike either to replace or coincide with Marlboro changes the tune, hence my 2nd question...

rossi said he'd never race for tobacco money... and then he rode for gauloises. in my opinion, rossi's opposition to tobacco sponsorship ended there.

Quote from: desmoquattro on June 24, 2010, 10:40:53 AM
No...now it's fixed:


Marlboro Mkt cap 40.86B
FIAT Mkt cap 13.90B

i'm pretty sure marlboro will continue their sponsorship of ducati (and ferrari) until they just don't want to anymore.
-- derby

'07 Suz GSX-R750

Retired rides: '05 Duc Monster S4R, '99 Yam YZF-R1, '98 Hon CBR600F3, '97 Suz GSX-R750, '96 Hon CBR600F3, '94 Hon CBR600F2, '91 Hon Hawk GT, '91 Yam YSR-50, '87 Yam YSR-50

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gm2

he'll be sportin' barcodes.
Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

Quote from: gm2 on June 24, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
he'll be sportin' barcodes.

hell...I am surprised he doesn't have his own personal barcode that he should be marketing...
99 Cagiva Gran Canyon-"FOR SALE", PM for details.
98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
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desmoquattro

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24062010/23/rossi-ducati-details.html

QuoteMore details look to have emerged of the Ducati offer that could tempt MotoGP superstar Valentino Rossi  to the Italian team for 2011.

Money looks to be one of the main factors - but not in the way you might imagine.

The Italian media are reporting that Ducati/Marlboro has tabled an offer of 15 million euros a year for the reigning nine time world champion - with future F1 and Rallying options with Ferrari/Fiat thrown in for good measure.

Please...please....PLEASE....
My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

derby

Quote from: desmoquattro on June 24, 2010, 03:51:16 PM

Please...please....PLEASE....


you are way too excited about this.
-- derby

'07 Suz GSX-R750

Retired rides: '05 Duc Monster S4R, '99 Yam YZF-R1, '98 Hon CBR600F3, '97 Suz GSX-R750, '96 Hon CBR600F3, '94 Hon CBR600F2, '91 Hon Hawk GT, '91 Yam YSR-50, '87 Yam YSR-50

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desmoquattro

Quote from: derby on June 24, 2010, 04:07:06 PM
you are way too excited about this.

Not nearly as excited as I'm gonna be when he actually signs...hopefully while I'm in Italy...at Misano ;D
My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

gm2

i'm tellin' ya, he's going to do it.  so you might as well start celebrating now.  =)
Like this is the racing, no?