IBM used to make rifles/machine guns.

Quote from: rgramjet on July 29, 2010, 07:48:25 PM
IBM used to make rifles/machine guns.

the ultimate international business machines?

Quote from: akmnstr on July 29, 2010, 12:45:05 PM
I love this direction the DMF is taking.  All this manly stuff.  Chain saws, boots, guns, survival and  pissing matches.  Damn, a place where a man can be a man and belch and fart out loud.

doesn't matter unless we can light the farts too

What is the point of the leather "chaps" loggers/tree-taker-downers wear?

I've heard conflicting stories of use, but the one to make the most sense was if the chain broke and kicked back, it would coil itself up in the leather instead of into your skin.

The worst was it would stop the chain from penetrating the leather and cutting you.

Never handled a pair, but if the latter is true, that must be some thick ass leather.

Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 30, 2010, 04:06:58 AM
What is the point of the leather "chaps" loggers/tree-taker-downers wear?

when you go to the bar later, you look tough in your assless chaps and biker hat.

Quote from: ducatiz on July 30, 2010, 04:08:40 AM
when you go to the bar later, you look tough in your assless chaps and biker hat.

Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 30, 2010, 04:06:58 AM
What is the point of the leather "chaps" loggers/tree-taker-downers wear?

I've heard conflicting stories of use, but the one to make the most sense was if the chain broke and kicked back, it would coil itself up in the leather instead of into your skin.

The worst was it would stop the chain from penetrating the leather and cutting you.

Never handled a pair, but if the latter is true, that must be some thick ass leather.

I have Kevlar chaps.  They, in theory, will stop the chain before it will cut your leg.  I am not about to test that theory.  When I worked for the Forest Service, I saw many a pair of chaps with partial saw cuts.

Quote from: akmnstr on July 30, 2010, 04:23:17 AM
I have Kevlar chaps.  They, in theory, will stop the chain before it will cut your leg.  I am not about to test that theory.  When I worked for the Forest Service, I saw many a pair of chaps with partial saw cuts.

I could totally see Kevlar doing that, just a hard time with believe leather could, but as you said.........I don't want to test it either, but I am sure someone has and it wasn't pleasant or they did as advertised.


I figured they also were for just general extra protection if you whack the saw against your leg, brush, etc etc.

they are in fact made of ballistic nylon and kevlar (never seen a leather pair myself)

they provide several layers of protection

1) outer ballistic nylon layer - abrasion resistance (wear and tear, not saw) and holding all the kevlar in.
2) inner layer of woven Kevlar - slows down the chain speed
3) middle layer of thick, loose Kevlar thread - gets pulled into the say and binds op the clutch (works  instantly)

they work, as long as they are in good repair, and have not stopped too many spinning chains. you can actually repair them in a pinch, but its better to replace them once a bunch of the Kevlar thread has been pulled out.

fun fact- most cuts on saw chaps (in wildland firefighting) are on the left leg, and above the knee. anyone want to make a guess as to why this is?

Quote from: herm on July 30, 2010, 05:16:53 AM
they are in fact made of ballistic nylon and kevlar (never seen a leather pair myself)

they provide several layers of protection

1) outer ballistic nylon layer - abrasion resistance (wear and tear, not saw) and holding all the kevlar in.
2) inner layer of woven Kevlar - slows down the chain speed
3) middle layer of thick, loose Kevlar thread - gets pulled into the say and binds op the clutch (works  instantly)

they work, as long as they are in good repair, and have not stopped too many spinning chains. you can actually repair them in a pinch, but its better to replace them once a bunch of the Kevlar thread has been pulled out.

fun fact- most cuts on saw chaps (in wildland firefighting) are on the left leg, and above the knee. anyone want to make a guess as to why this is?

Wow, sort of like a flak vest that LEO's wear. Obviously the construction is different, but same layer of protection

shot in the dark to your question:


possibly the individual doing the cutting is kneeling down on their left knee, standing up on the right, and cutting in a downward left position?

that way if you have to get out of dodge quickly, your strong leg is up and you can make a faster exit?

Quote from: herm on July 30, 2010, 05:16:53 AM

fun fact- most cuts on saw chaps (in wildland firefighting) are on the left leg, and above the knee. anyone want to make a guess as to why this is?

Firefighters kneeling down on their right knee and resting the saw on their left before the chain stops spinning completely?

Quote from: Triple J on July 30, 2010, 06:13:21 AM
Firfighters kneeling down on their right knee and resting the saw on their left before the chain stops spinning completely?

Good thinking on that one, never thought about that.

Cyrus you could rent space, buy a saw, and do this:

http://www.chainsawchick.com/

Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on July 30, 2010, 06:38:43 AM
Cyrus you could rent space, buy a saw, and do this:

http://www.chainsawchick.com/

You've been around long enough to see my Artwerk

That is some cool stuff, though!

Quote from: herm on July 30, 2010, 05:16:53 AM
they are in fact made of ballistic nylon and kevlar (never seen a leather pair myself)


fun fact- most cuts on saw chaps (in wildland firefighting) are on the left leg, and above the knee. anyone want to make a guess as to why this is?

Carrying a running chainsaw and something coming in contact with the throttle while walking?


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