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DOAH -- Gas Cap screw in Tank! Am I Screwed (Literally)

Started by TitanMonsterS4R, September 18, 2010, 02:46:08 PM

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TitanMonsterS4R

Ok, in all my excitement and haste this morning I fixed my new red/black gas cap but in the progress dropped one of the larger screws into the gas tank.  To make matters even better, they're aluminum, so it them out with a magnet is out since the screw doesn't have a strong magnetic force.  Tried fishing it out with a flexible claw and dumping the tank of gas an shaking the damn thing out.  NOTHING!

Does anyone have a cost effective solution to get the screw out? More importantly is there a filter in my tank ensuring the screw will not screw up my Monster and will spend its lifetime rattling around in there.

Thanks for the help.

06 Monster S4R - Red/Black Final Edition

Meerkat

 [evil] That'll teach you to mod your bike when you could've been hanging in Paw Paw with the cool kids! [evil]

Sorry can't help with the screws, I've got enough of my own on the loose.
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The Mad King Pepe'

You're screwed dude! Those screws are so small they can make it through the gas filter and eventually into the engine where they either get stuck between the valves or end up lodged into the piston!



[cheeky] [laugh]



Probably the easiest way to get the screw out is to empty the tank, take it off the bike, and remove the metal cover at the bottom where filter and sensor are mounted.


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tuanogus

Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 18, 2010, 04:10:03 PM
You're screwed dude! Those screws are so small they can make it through the gas filter and eventually into the engine where they either get stuck between the valves or end up lodged into the piston!

Aluminum screws in the gas tank eventually turn into unicorns in your muffler. Kinda like butterflies; but different.

J5

is your bike fuel injected ?

if so then you can take the pump out of the bottom, you will find the screw easy enough

good time to replace the filter while you are at it
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

TitanMonsterS4R

Quote from: J5 on September 18, 2010, 04:34:56 PM
is your bike fuel injected ?

if so then you can take the pump out of the bottom, you will find the screw easy enough

good time to replace the filter while you are at it

Yes, it is fuel injected (08 Ducati Monster 695). Wonder if I can make a 6 hour ride with it in there. Really don't want to miss the trip I planned to Gettysburg.

Thanks for the advice about taking the pump out of the bottom> Guess I have an early morning project.   
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J5

i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

Slide Panda

Nope... it's done. The spark of it's young life has been snuffed out... Smothered in shite... done.

I'll give you $1 for it... and that's generous.


To assuage your anxiety have a look at the parts schematic. I know my bike, an injected 900 has a pick up screen filter before the pump. You probably have something similar. It's a wire mesh encased bit of fiber (not sure what sort of fiber) that the pump draws the fuel through, protecting the pump from anything like, say, a dropped bolt. Having never gutted a 695 tank I can't say you've got one for, 100%, sure though.
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ducati culture

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Use a telespotic magnet and you should be fine ( maybe not!).  You can drain the tank to make it a little easier.  [coffee]

Artful

Quote from: ducati culture on September 21, 2010, 08:09:15 AM
Use a telespotic magnet and you should be fine.  You can drain the tank to make it a little easier.  [coffee]

http://www.howmagnetswork.com/
QuoteIt attracts ferrous objects like pieces of iron, steel, nickel and cobalt.

Aluminum /= Ferrous as the OP pointed out.
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Quote from: ducati culture on September 21, 2010, 08:09:15 AM
Use a telespotic magnet and you should be fine.  You can drain the tank to make it a little easier.  [coffee]
as he said:
Quote from: KneeSlider on September 18, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
they're aluminum, so [fishing] them out with a magnet is out since the screw doesn't have a strong magnetic force.
Get more [coffee]!

[cheeky]
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

ducati culture


TitanMonsterS4R

took the gas tank off and removed the electronics to get the bolt from the bottom. In addition to finding the screw I found an elf.  Do I have to return him to the previous owner or can I keep him?
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Meerkat

Fry him like  [bacon]! Keeps the fingers warm when you ride in the morning. ;D
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zooom

Quote from: KneeSlider on September 21, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
  In addition to finding the screw I found an elf.  Do I have to return him to the previous owner or can I keep him?

depends on what kind he is....
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