Quote from: rc51 on September 21, 2010, 06:09:41 AM
Maybe the old school GP style run/bump start.

those are called "le mans starts" and just about everybody quit doing them because they're dangerous.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Motor-show--events/Other-shows/Le-Mans-24-hour-race-2010-CAR-Magazines-guide/The-famous-Le-Mans-style-start/

Quote from: derby on September 21, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
those are called "le mans starts" and just about everybody quit doing them because they're dangerous.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Motor-show--events/Other-shows/Le-Mans-24-hour-race-2010-CAR-Magazines-guide/The-famous-Le-Mans-style-start/

I heard someone say racing was dangerous.

Quote from: humorless dp on September 21, 2010, 07:28:18 AM
I heard someone say racing was dangerous.

IT IS?!?!?!?!

Quote from: derby on September 21, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
those are called "le mans starts" and just about everybody quit doing them because they're dangerous.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Motor-show--events/Other-shows/Le-Mans-24-hour-race-2010-CAR-Magazines-guide/The-famous-Le-Mans-style-start/

That article just states that it's dangerous because people were not wearing their harnesses. No harness in motorcycle racing. My concern would be someone getting run over if they tripped. I think it would still work better in motorcycle racing than in cars. And it can't be any worse than the guys all bunching all into a turn.

Quote from: derby on September 21, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
those are called "le mans starts" and just about everybody quit doing them because they're dangerous.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Motor-show--events/Other-shows/Le-Mans-24-hour-race-2010-CAR-Magazines-guide/The-famous-Le-Mans-style-start/

duccarlos was referring to LeMans starts where the drivers run across the track, get in and start their cars. I was referring to the old bike GP run and bump start the bike starts, ala KR Sr. days. Besides it was just a joke.

Quote from: rc51 on September 21, 2010, 07:58:11 AM
duccarlos was referring to LeMans starts where the drivers run across the track, get in and start their cars. I was referring to the old bike GP run and bump start the bike starts, ala KR Sr. days. Besides it was just a joke.

I think it was good system...

but I doubt that the riders would be able to bump start a 600 or 800cc 4 stroke. machine

Agreed, they would still need someone to push them.

Quote from: humorless dp on September 21, 2010, 10:46:08 AM
I think it was good system...

but I doubt that the riders would be able to bump start a 600 or 800cc 4 stroke. machine

given the way they do it sometimes after picking the bike up post crash...I have to question that...the only thing I say that would really get in the way would be the protective equipment in keeping them from being able to run, hop and THEN ride away...

I love watching the videos of the old GP races and seeing the starts. Cool stuff. You had to have that down to a fine art or else. Who gives a shit if you're on the pole with a second + up on everyone else if you can't get the bike to start quick and hop on. The whole fourth row would pass you while you were still pushing! Spencer's RS500 triples were supposedly the best/quickest starting 500cc GP out there. I think I remember reading about KR Sr. pregnant doging about it.

Quote from: zooom on September 21, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
given the way they do it sometimes after picking the bike up post crash...I have to question that...the only thing I say that would really get in the way would be the protective equipment in keeping them from being able to run, hop and THEN ride away...

Most of the time, if the GP bikes stop running, they don't start without a diesel motor turning the wheel.

Those bikes have gnarly compression ratios. 

2 strokes live to be bump started, 4 strokes not so much.

Quote from: zooom on September 21, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
given the way they do it sometimes after picking the bike up post crash...I have to question that...the only thing I say that would really get in the way would be the protective equipment in keeping them from being able to run, hop and THEN ride away...

maybe a bike up to temp with 2 or 3 guys pushing...

I'd pay money to see Pedrosa try it all alone.

Quote from: zooom on September 21, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
given the way they do it sometimes after picking the bike up post crash...I have to question that...

when that happens that bike was still running.

The new and improved Pedrobot!!

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2010/11/23/marquez-set-for-moto2-test

Quote from: oldfastwin on November 23, 2010, 09:54:58 AM
The new and improved Pedrobot!!

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2010/11/23/marquez-set-for-moto2-test

I haven't really seen what he's like off-track, but based on his on-track riding, I like Marquez a whole lot more than I like Hobbity Mcmake the beast with two backswad.

  Yeah he put in a really awesome year for such a youngster and hell, he's bound to have a better personality than Pedrobot!! How can he not?? Dani needs to start looking over his shoulder! [moto]