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Started by Slide Panda, October 15, 2010, 08:00:24 AM

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ducatiz

#15
October 19, 2010, 02:01:48 PM
No statute bans it, just like no statute bans unlicensed open carry of a pistol.

The correct question is what statute bans it?

The state AG's ofc isn't aware of one, and va has preemption.
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Meerkat

#16
October 19, 2010, 02:45:20 PM
Izaak,

Does VA have the same problem that WI has of local LEOs and DAs arresting/charging open carriers with disturbing the peace since they can't stop open carriers for any other reason?
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ducatiz

#17
October 19, 2010, 02:48:17 PM
No due to an arrest and lawsuit several years ago.  If you open carry here you may get a question from a cop just to see if you're otherwise sane.  I've carried open wearing a suit and got barely a glance from le.
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ducatiz

#18
October 19, 2010, 02:52:26 PM
That being said, carrying a longarm on a sling would merit greater scrutiny.  I don't consider a stop and chat under those circumstances bad.  At the least, its an opp to reinforce that being armed is ok and legal.
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sbrguy

#19
October 19, 2010, 06:17:51 PM
i think if a  [leo] pulled me over for wearing a shotgun like that and it wasn't loaded that as long as its a civil conversation of what's up and such and i was just on my way from the store or to or from the range, etc , it wouldn't be a big deal at all to me.

in all likelihood as long as its only a stop for just asking why i'm there and such and no tickets or such then would probably be pretty cool  [leo] and actually have a good conversation about guns and such.

ducatiz

#20
October 19, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
OK, here you go:

VA preemption statute:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915

Does not distinguish between handguns and longarms, only allows localities to enact restrictions on discharge of a weapon. 

And to the VA legislature's credit, subsection C permits lawsuits against a locality violating the preemption to get attorney fees, damages, etc. 
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zooom

#21
October 20, 2010, 04:52:11 AM
but that does not say anything about transporting loaded or unloaded...
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ducatiz

#22
October 20, 2010, 05:05:13 AM Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 05:06:48 AM by ducatiz
Quote from: zooom on October 20, 2010, 04:52:11 AM
but that does not say anything about transporting loaded or unloaded...

it also doesn't say anything about sticking a midget up your ass too.  [thumbsup]

but after digging around even more, I found that the state allows localities to set limitations provided they are posted and it also allows for individuals to carry regardless of local statutes if they have a reasonable belief that it's necessary for their personal safety.   

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915.2

Fairfax does not have a loaded longarm carry prohibition, but Loudon does.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/local-ordinances.pdf

Pretty nifty chart.

Back to the OP, I have found that pretty much all DC/MD/VA drivers are lame.  DC drivers are just lazy.  MD drivers are stupid and aggressive and VA drivers are stupid and timid.  I am not sure why this works out that way. 
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zooom

#23
October 20, 2010, 05:24:52 AM
Quote from: Autohag on October 18, 2010, 04:31:58 PM
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm


the answer lies here

Quote...§ 15.2-915.2.  This section empowers the governing body of any county or city to, by ordinance, make it unlawful for any person to transport, possess or carry a loaded shotgun or loaded rifle in any vehicle on any public street, road, or highway within such locality. Any violation of such ordinance shall be punishable by a fine of not more than $100....
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zooom

#24
October 20, 2010, 05:25:27 AM
and that is a VA state law
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ducatiz

#25
October 20, 2010, 05:32:20 AM Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 05:38:55 AM by ducatiz
Quote from: zooom on October 20, 2010, 05:24:52 AM
the answer lies here


i didn't see that original post when i posted the link to the same statute, but that only allows the localities to have the law.  look at the DGIF chart I posted, most of them do not.  (items #22 and #54)
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Geaux

#26
October 20, 2010, 05:49:56 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 05:05:13 AM
it also doesn't say anything about sticking a midget up your ass too.  [thumbsup]

Wait, you mean some drivers might look at me funny if I do?

Autohag

#27
October 20, 2010, 10:05:22 AM
Butt midgets?!!

The Mad King Pepe'

#28
October 20, 2010, 11:03:22 AM
Funny how this thread started about the courtesy of drives in the DC area and degenerated into one about carrying weapons... :-\

Unless guns are a highly effective means of promoting courtesy among drivers [laugh]
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Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

ducatiz

#29
October 20, 2010, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: Pepe' on October 20, 2010, 11:03:22 AM
Funny how this thread started about the courtesy of drives in the DC area and evolved into one about carrying weapons... :-\

Unless guns are a highly effective means of promoting courtesy among drivers [laugh]

corrected to remove bias.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
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