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Are you allowed to Lane Split?


In NSW you are allowed to pass a vehicle on it’s nearside if you are indicating left and turning left in the same lane or if you are on the left side of a broken or an unbroken line such as in an adjoining left lane.

You are allowed to pass on the offside if indicating right and you are on the left of either a broken or unbroken line in the same lane or on the right side of a broken line in another lane or overtaking. In other words if the lane is wide enough for you to share with another vehicle you can legally pass on it’s right side if indicating.
However, ARR (Australian Road Rule) 140 says do not overtake when unsafe.
ARR 144 says to keep a safe distance when overtaking.
Does it matter whether the vehicles being passed are moving? No


So there you go, hope it helps.






                                           Mmick

 

so its a yes as long as your indicator is on?

in victoria at least, there is no law specifically making lane splitting/filtering illegal, as long as:

- you pass to the right of a vehicle, within their lane, so as not to cross the line and become 'to the left' of the vehicle in the right lane (assuming 2 lanes of traffic)

- you have your RHS indicator on.

the laws relating to this manouvre are (cant remember the specific ARR numbers):
you must not overtake unless safe to do so,
you must not overtake too close to another vehicle.

problems there in - WTF is too close? there is no defined distance. i figure if i make it past without cutting off the other vehicle or hitting them, it was by default safe

But generally when splitting up the middle of two lanes, you will be in and out of both lanes... no one is going to leave you enough space on the right hand side of their car

I can see me wearing out alot of indicator switches me thinks. 

Quote from: cakeman on November 29, 2010, 05:46:40 PM... no one is going to leave you enough space on the right hand side of their car

I do.  When I'm caged and I see a  [moto] splitting up the queue behind me I move as far over as I can for em.  But then I'm a bike rider in a cage, not a car driver as such, eh.

But lets not forget the real reason for the post in the first place


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                                            Mmick

Quote from: monstermick58 on November 29, 2010, 09:15:23 PM
But lets not forget the real reason for the post in the first place

BASTARD SUPER CHEAP AUTO BASTARDS

Fixed it for ya Mmick 

Quote from: ungeheuer on November 30, 2010, 02:31:48 AM
Fixed it for ya Mmick 

Ta, 





                              Mmick

Road laws are different in each state so it depends where you do it.

Often there isn't a specific law relating to lane splitting but they use the " unsafe driving" or similar law to whack you with.

I generally don't lane split as there isn't often the traffic to justify it in Tas given I don't commute.

Quote from: heatherp on November 28, 2010, 06:00:03 PM
I was told by the police in WA that as much as they don't like people doing it, there isn't any law pertaining to it.  But I seem to recall something about only one vehicle per lane which has been brought up time and again by people who dislike pushbike riders riding two abreast.

So this really doesn't help at all, does it?

I would have thought they would be pinging lots of riders for it, if it was illegal.

From NSW Road Rules: 151   Riding a motor bike or bicycle alongside more than 1 other rider

(1)  The rider of a motor bike or bicycle must not ride on a road that is not a multi-lane road alongside more than 1 other rider, unless subrule (3) applies to the rider.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Note. Bicycle, motor bike and multi-lane road are defined in the Dictionary, and rider is defined in rule 17.
(2)  The rider of a motor bike or bicycle must not ride in a marked lane alongside more than 1 other rider in the marked lane, unless subrule (3) applies to the rider.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Note. Marked lane is defined in the Dictionary.
(3)  The rider of a motor bike or bicycle may ride alongside more than 1 other rider if the rider is:
(a)  overtaking the other riders, or
(b)  permitted to do so under another law of this jurisdiction.
Note. Overtake is defined in the Dictionary.
(4)  If the rider of a motor bike or bicycle is riding on a road that is not a multi-lane road alongside another rider, or in a marked lane alongside another rider in the marked lane, the rider must ride not over 1.5 metres from the other rider.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Quote from: Nibor on November 29, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
in victoria at least, there is no law specifically making lane splitting/filtering illegal, as long as:

- you pass to the right of a vehicle, within their lane, so as not to cross the line and become 'to the left' of the vehicle in the right lane (assuming 2 lanes of traffic)

- you have your RHS indicator on.

the laws relating to this manouvre are (cant remember the specific ARR numbers):
you must not overtake unless safe to do so,
you must not overtake too close to another vehicle.

problems there in - WTF is too close? there is no defined distance. i figure if i make it past without cutting off the other vehicle or hitting them, it was by default safe

Again, the NSW Rules: 144   Keeping a safe distance when overtaking

A driver overtaking a vehicle:
(a)  must pass the vehicle at a sufficient distance to avoid a collision with the vehicle or obstructing the path of the vehicle, and
(b)  must not return to the marked lane or line of traffic where the vehicle is travelling until the driver is a sufficient distance past the vehicle to avoid a collision with the vehicle or obstructing the path of the vehicle.

As to the original post - I agree the ad was pretty distasteful, thankfully they pulled it, presumably acknowledging their mistake.

Quote from: StephenC on December 05, 2010, 04:24:07 PM
As to the original post - I agree the ad was pretty distasteful, thankfully they pulled it, presumably acknowledging their mistake.

The ad was pulled because our (NSW) Motorcycle Council (MCC) insisted it be pulled, two to the boys and girls that do the hard yards for us at MCC.





                         Mmick

Quote from: Justo on November 28, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
Kinda on topic. I was told by a senior constable  last week that its not illegal to lane split... Contrary to my thoughts. This was during my accident report in which I denied doing it (which is true - I wasnt - incase your reading this  ). The said I don't care if you lane split or not. To which i said, I wasnt coz it's illegal, the  replied "no it's not".

WTF is it or isnt it.

Oh and shit ad too. I dont see any ads about lookin twice coz we sit in your blind spots so look over your shoulder before bargin into me. Like in my case leaving me all busted up typing now with only 1 hand and a bike thats in the shop all jizzled up.

Hope you are ok Justo! 

a couple of things.first and foremost MARK STENBERG is a LEGEND.he got me off my speeding fine (no not on a monster) but that other bike.the man can ride and he is one of the nicest guys to talk/ride with not to mention a true professional.
last but not least people do not winge about dickheads on the roads back home because im here in malaysia and they are all f#cked on and off the road.....pigmy