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696 Mapping probs

Started by MOUSEMAN, June 03, 2008, 07:24:00 AM

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Howie

The only mapping problem I've heard of as  definite is with the DP ECU/Termi set up.  I heard if you run without the baffle it will be a little (not awful) lean, but with the baffles it is fine.  I'm sure there will be a flash for this down the road.  I did a 30 mile test ride on a stock bike and the engine was spot on.  Since the first EFI on squareback VWs , when a tech couldn't get it to run right it was the fault of the black box and it usually wasn't.

NAK3D696

#106
Quote from: gearhead on June 18, 2008, 03:26:41 AM
These kind of statements are total b.s., like saying I heard from a friends friend that your sister's boyfriends mother inlaw doesn't like the color blue because it has been known to cause seazures in lab rats, so therefore I don't recommend anyone buy anything the color blue.

Sorry but you dont know what the hell your talking about..... You took a demo ride for what 10 miles....  Well I finally got to take my new 696 out on the highway and exactly like what I read it overheated... Its F@#% Bull@%#....  I have to tell all my friends on their hondas , yamahas etc... sorry ducati puts out bikes that dont work.

fLUNX

in Highway, you run at.... Miles/Hour? (how long.... time?)
and what was the exterior temperature?

does someone take the 696 to a Dynojet and analise if it was lean or rich with the DP termi kit instaled (before and after)?
the over heated problem too.

It was great to have some real "cientific" data to talk about this serious issue.

and a dealer to install a DDA device on a 696 and make a run and analise the problem...
and solve it...

"please" don t tell me... that the answer of a dealer... is... "Sorry the problem is with Ducati, complain to them... we can t do anything about it"

For it was a issue for a refund... (full refund) because if the bike is in warranty period and Ducati/Dealer don t /cant do anything....

Why do the owner have to have the bike?

regards,
fLAVIO

gearhead

#108
QuoteSorry but you dont know what the hell your talking about..... You took a demo ride for what 10 miles.... 
Sorry but you don't know what the hell your talking about......I own the bike and have 700 miles on it already. How about a little info other than crying like a baby. What are you refering too when you say over heat? How many bars? Did it stop running? Do you have the Termi kit on it or is it stock? For all we know this could be your first bike and like a noob maybe you are on the highway in 2nd gear at redline for hours at a time.

nkryptit

I did a 250 mile (one way) trip this last weekend, then back the next day.  Was doing 80 - 100 most of the way (6k - 7.5k), the beast stayed at 4 bars almost the whole time.  The only time I saw it start creeping to 5 bars was when I tried to hold it over 100 for more than a minute or so.  I have DP Termis + DPECU + Filter.  I think everything is fine, if your bike is cutting out, then there is something else wrong.

NAK3D696

#110
Oh wait your this guy  [laugh] Nice pic buddy




If you read the first post that is exactly whats happening.  Not in 2nd  [clap]  I can deal with the sputtering but have the thing running so hot you have to pull over is unacceptable.   I waited 5 months for this damn thing and sorry if i am a little mad i cant ride more than 20 miles. 

williamG

I have 220 miles on bike.  Ambient 75F-95F it does not go over 4 bars on freeway cruising 80mph.  In town today it creeped up to 5 bars when i was sitting at a redlight for 3 mins, ambient temp 100F.  I took it off and looked in the oil viewfinder and the oil was bubbling, oh yea she was running hot.  I cut it off for 1 min, when i restarted it went back to 4 bars and did not come back to 5.  Other then that sometimes from a stop it pops but that was only 3 times the other day ambient temp 75F.  It does feel like accel from 3000-4000 is week but kicks back on strong around 6000.  I have stock setup running 91 octane in norther California.  Hope this helps to further resolve this issue. 

bulldogs2k

Temps in South East Va can be 95+ with humidity like a MOFO.  I guess the 696 will be a dog in traffic....

I have not checked the accessories but is their a oil cooler available for the bike?  That would help alot with rising oil temps! 

A

nkryptit

No oil cooler in the 696 specific catalog, I've poured over it for hours, maybe someday.

gearhead

 Christ, I'm in northern Ontario Canada and this year we are lucky to hit 70 for god sake! I struggle to hit 3 bars on mine.

danaid

Quote from: fLUNX on June 19, 2008, 02:49:51 AM
in Highway, you run at.... Miles/Hour? (how long.... time?)
and what was the exterior temperature?

does someone take the 696 to a Dynojet and analise if it was lean or rich with the DP termi kit instaled (before and after)?
the over heated problem too.

It was great to have some real "cientific" data to talk about this serious issue.

and a dealer to install a DDA device on a 696 and make a run and analise the problem...
and solve it...

    only noticed the roar of the open exhausts! ;D

"please" don t tell me... that the answer of a dealer... is... "Sorry the problem is with Ducati, complain to them... we can t do anything about it"

For it was a issue for a refund... (full refund) because if the bike is in warranty period and Ducati/Dealer don t /cant do anything....

Why do the owner have to hav
 

regards,
fLAVIO

I explained the problem to the tech at modesto ducati just before he installed my full termis system and he asked if the info had been backed up by info on a dyno or was the info just here-say. I told him no dyno info and he said that "its just here-say without data". Modesto Ducati runs a full dyno tuning shop and race ducatis.

  I was in Las Vegas last week and I went to the ducati dealer there and asked about the stalling problem and they said there demo bike with the termis had the stalling problem but was corrected by the techs on the ducati demo truck when it arrived. The dealer told me Ducati is working on the problem.

  I have only riden about 5 miles thru town at slow speeds with the termis kit installed but will take it out for a long ride in a couple of days. I was watching the temp and in stayed 4 bars in stop and go traffic in 101 deg. weather temp. I only noticed the roar of the exhausts. ;D
11' 1198SP  Black
09' 1100S    Red
09'     696.   Red   first Ducati (sold)

williamG

I called the San Rafael, CA dealer about this problem and they completely blew me off.  The only thing they offered was for me to bring it in and they could see if they duplicate the heat, but they are right near the way so its always cool there.  Talked to another local dealer who said they are calling Ducati North America and will get back to me Monday.  Whoopty doo.... oh BTW i put 100 octane in and it does lug as much 3,000-4000rpms, or buck at low RPMS, at the expense of $6.29 a gallon.  later

gearhead

 Are you saying that the premium made no dif then?

williamG


bulldogs2k

I sat on one last saturday and it fit me like a glove.  It was light too!  Felt as light as my Dual Sport CRF230!  I may get my bike at Redline motors in Williamsburg, Va since they have, and, run dyno's.  I'll get them to run a few dyno sessions when I buy.   [moto]