in cali you can run the red if you are waiting too long.... (I don't suggest this... better safe then 5 minutes early)

Quote from: Dareduc on June 19, 2008, 06:06:10 PM
in cali you can run the red if you are waiting too long.... (I don't suggest this... better safe then 5 minutes early)

someone lied to you.

Quote from: mxwinky on June 18, 2008, 06:57:09 PM
Yes, they work.  I sold them for years when I was in the bike biz.

Yes, as a retailer, I bet they work great.  You buy them for $.99 and sell them for $19.95. 

In reality, it's all about placement.



http://humantransport.org/bicycledriving/library/signals/detection.htm

Quote from: Adam in MO on June 19, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
In my conversations with leo's I usually bring this up. Most say that if it's safe to turn they won't ticket you... if it isn't safe you need to wait for it to cycle through (most of ours trip the sensor lights on the third cycle regardless), wait for a car, or go a roundabout way.

Seems like common sense to me.

Quote from: Dareduc on June 19, 2008, 06:06:10 PM
in cali you can run the red if you are waiting too long.... (I don't suggest this... better safe then 5 minutes early)

Quote from: Le Pirate on June 19, 2008, 11:35:50 AM
I've actually been pulled over for running one that wouldn't turn. I told the cop I sat there for 2 cycles (which was true) and it never changed, so I went anyways (wasn't a busy intersection anyways). He still gave me a ticket 

You should have fought it.  AFAIK, every state has a statute that states that a malfunctioning traffic light should be treated as a four-way stop.  Even a shyster lawyer coming off a four-day bender could successfully argue that a signal that wouldn't change for a vehicle was not functioning properly.

And fwiw, it there is one on your path that CONTINUALLY won't change, call the traffic dept of your municipality.  They ARE adjustable.

Quote from: Pakhan on June 19, 2008, 02:12:29 PMI would think most of the time if the intersection is that busy you would also have traffic in your direction as well, let a car go ahead of you and trigger the light. 

Not necessarily.  For example, you are waiting to turn left but the traffic is almost all straight-through.  Or you are on a small cross street to a busy road.

the signal that i have to use to leave my complex will not change no matter what I do. I have to wait for someone to come up on the other side of the street or behind me to get going.

that or hook a right, ride a half mile to another signal that may or may not change depending on it's "mood" so that I can make a u-turn.
OR
I just run it. after looking both ways like mommy taught me of course.

Quote from: zedsaid on June 19, 2008, 06:40:22 PM

someone lied to you.

No they didn't. If the light won't cycle it would be considered inoperable. Then it's to be treated as a four way stop.

Quote from: ROBsS4R on June 19, 2008, 01:28:17 PM
To many camera's in my area to run them.

I will look into a magnet perhaps.

yeah...same here...dallas wants to put up more, too...and cameras don't give a crap if you wait two cycles or ten...running a red is running a red.  just ask bryant8   

i ran neo magnets on my M750, and would still have stubborn lights more than i would have liked.  maybe i just needed more magnets.  come to think of it, i think i'll order some more right now.

Wait until the light is running.  Stick your foot out ~

JM

Quote from: hbliam on June 20, 2008, 11:38:29 AM
No they didn't. If the light won't cycle it would be considered inoperable. Then it's to be treated as a four way stop.

You may have grounds to fight a ticket, but you're going to get a ticket. (PoPo dependant)

If a car pulls up to the light, and it changes, it ain't "inoperable". You just couldn't operate it.

Even if you're in a car, and the light won't change... you'll get a ticket for running it.

Quote from: zedsaid on June 20, 2008, 12:25:51 PM
You may have grounds to fight a ticket, but you're going to get a ticket. (PoPo dependant)

If a car pulls up to the light, and it changes, it ain't "inoperable". You just couldn't operate it.

Even if you're in a car, and the light won't change... you'll get a ticket for running it.

Possibly. But you have strong grounds for fighting it. Thus...most cops won't write one, it's a waste of time. You better sit through a cycle or two though.

If you can't operate it the light IS inoperable.

Quote from: msincredible on June 19, 2008, 11:19:47 PM
Not necessarily.  For example, you are waiting to turn left but the traffic is almost all straight-through.  Or you are on a small cross street to a busy road.

Your right, that's why I said most of the time.


Red lights can be a pain, but I was stuck at a toll that had that sensor and gives you a ticket that determines your toll based on distance.  It wouldn't activate and none of the toll workers would help get this ticket.  After 15 minutes of horn honking and arm waving (that at least 3 workers saw) I ran it and the destination toll.

Quote from: trenner on June 19, 2008, 04:25:25 PM
Ah, I see.  So "tripping traffic lights" doesn't mean this:

No, No, No.

That is a picture of someone tripping, and looking at a traffic light. "Tripping traffic lights" are looking at the traffic doing all that melting and stuff.

Quote from: trenner on June 19, 2008, 04:25:25 PM
Ah, I see.  So "tripping traffic lights" doesn't mean this:

Umm, yeah.....thanks for the flashback!  I had to stare at it for a while to realise I was staring at it.  What traffic light? 

Some how I tripped a traffic light today. Don't know what I did but what ever it was worked . Too bad I can't remember what it was .......

anyone seen this product?

they have 2 versions.. I wonder if the more expensive is just hype and works just as well as the original.. thoughts?

http://www.greenlightstuff.com/trigger.html