romanian deadlift, that's straight legged, no?

Quote from: cokey on February 10, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
romanian deadlift, that's straight legged, no?

similar in that you also don't go to the floor, but knees are definitely bent and you break at the hips, pushing your butt out first before lowering the weight towards the floor.


another tip with deadlifting: unless you are going to compete some day in powerlifting, I would suggest deadlifts be done out of the rack and initated with the negative (lowering) portion of the lift to neurologically prepare the body for the lift, as you do in both the bench press and squat. In fact a true deadlift is about the only free weight exercise in which you initiate the movement with the concentric phase of the lift, which is not the best way to avoid injury. For the average bear looking to deadlift to assist with general athletic performance, initiating the movement from the floor is not needed or even useful in any way.

Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 10, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
Dammit, you guys make me want to start deadlifting again.   

I was just wondering, what are some of your highest numbers with the "standard" deadlift?

I used to be able to routinely pull 600 lbs. + with lifting straps, as my grip was the weakest link in the deal. Without straps I could usually pull somewhere in the 500lb. + range.

Those are not huge numbers by any means, but being short and stocky,  I'm not exactly built to deadlift. While short and stocky usually gives you a mechanical advantage for squat and bench press, long armed, long torso guys with normal to short legs have the mechanical advantage for deadlifting.

Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 12:31:08 PM
another tip with deadlifting: unless you are going to compete some day in powerlifting, I would suggest deadlifts be done out of the rack and initated with the negative (lowering) portion of the lift to neurologically prepare the body for the lift, as you do in both the bench press and squat. In fact a true deadlift is about the only free weight exercise in which you initiate the movement with the concentric phase of the lift, which is not the best way to avoid injury. For the average bear looking to deadlift to assist with general athletic performance, initiating the movement from the floor is not needed or even useful in any way.

Just to clarify because im still new to the terminology of poitive and negative phase of any workout...

what do you by initated with the negative poriton of hte lift? Ive heard various things such as the lift should be done quick from the ground up (the positive phase?) and you should allow gravity to bring it back to the floor instead of slow control.

And as far as your back, ive heard things like, keep a neutral spine and take a deep breath to suppose a neutral spine. Is a neutral spine how you would have your back if you stood at attention?

Interesting stuff about lifting, can't say I'm particularly inclined to try it, but sounds different for sure.

I've been training a lot, and have lost some 20 pounds in about 6 months, with the last 3 months being really intense, with my ultimate goal of starting to fight again in october.

This is what my weekis looking like:

Mondays:

Chest and Back (P90x routine) in the morning.

Muay Thai in the afternoon

Tuesday:

Rowing AM

BJJ and Muay Thai/KB PM

Wednesday:

Shoulders and Arms (P90x) AM

Muay thai and Submission Wrestling PM

Thursday:

Rowing Am

Kickboxing and BJJ PM

Friday:
Rowing AM

Legs and Back (P90x) PM

Sat:

Muay thai and BJJ Am

Sun:

Rest or Run

I've hit a bit of a plateau lateley and can't seem to drop below 179. Any tips?

My diet is pretty repetitive but basically consists of a turkey and veggiers omelette in the morning, protein shake after w/o, turkey and provolone pita sandwich for lunch, and fruit for dinner.  

How To Do The Deadlift With Proper Form

Quote from: He Man on February 10, 2011, 12:42:33 PM

Just to clarify because im still new to the terminology of poitive and negative phase of any workout...

what do you by initated with the negative poriton of hte lift? Ive heard various things such as the lift should be done quick from the ground up (the positive phase?) and you should allow gravity to bring it back to the floor instead of slow control.

And as far as your back, ive heard things like, keep a neutral spine and take a deep breath to suppose a neutral spine. Is a neutral spine how you would have your back if you stood at attention?

Starting with the negative phase of the lift simply means to pull the bar out of a rack and start from the standing position instead of starting from the floor. As I mentioned, starting from the standing position allows your body to stabilize itself while decending and beginning the lift itself.

Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 10, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
Has anyone tried deadlifts with resistance bands?  It adds a whole new level to the lifts.  

Hopefully this works...

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Just click on the link, I hope it works.  I wouldn't mind some critiques on my form from you dead-heads.  BTW I promise there's a red band connecting the bar to my feet....   

Hard to critique form in the deadlift from a straight on view, but it looks pretty good really. Positioning seems to be very good. From the side it's easier to critique how you're initiating the lift. Bands can be very useful for developing speed in the lift.

actually................for anyone really interested in learning competition form deadlifting...........youtube westside barbell club and louie simmons. Nobody and no place does it better on the planet.

Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
actually................for anyone really interested in learning competition form deadlifting...........youtube westside barbell club and louie simmons. Nobody and no place does it better on the planet.

It sure doesn't seem like anyone's quite that far along with it Pit. Lets keep things in perspective - a learning tool is only as good as the person who uses it.

Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 01:26:53 PM

Hard to critique form in the deadlift from a straight on view, but it looks pretty good really. Positioning seems to be very good. From the side it's easier to critique how you're initiating the lift. Bands can be very useful for developing speed in the lift.

Cool, thanks pit, I tend to stick my butt out a bit and lift with my legs, but the heavier the weights, the more prone I am to using my back. 

Quote from: Monster Dave on February 10, 2011, 01:32:02 PM
It sure doesn't seem like anyone's quite that far along with it Pit. Lets keep things in perspective - a learning tool is only as good as the person who uses it.

No worries as to how far along anyone is or isn't in the powerlifts, Louie can teach a rank beginner how to deadlift just about better than anyone on the planet.

edit to say that there's nothing particularly wrong with the clip you posted.................not a great explanation of the  technical aspect of the lift, but nothing dangerous about it

Quote from: El Matador on February 10, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Interesting stuff about lifting, can't say I'm particularly inclined to try it, but sounds different for sure.

I've been training a lot, and have lost some 20 pounds in about 6 months, with the last 3 months being really intense, with my ultimate goal of starting to fight again in october.

This is what my weekis looking like:

Mondays:

Chest and Back (P90x routine) in the morning.

Muay Thai in the afternoon

Tuesday:

Rowing AM

BJJ and Muay Thai/KB PM

Wednesday:

Shoulders and Arms (P90x) AM

Muay thai and Submission Wrestling PM

Thursday:

Rowing Am

Kickboxing and BJJ PM

Friday:
Rowing AM

Legs and Back (P90x) PM

Sat:

Muay thai and BJJ Am

Sun:

Rest or Run

I've hit a bit of a plateau lateley and can't seem to drop below 179. Any tips?

My diet is pretty repetitive but basically consists of a turkey and veggiers omelette in the morning, protein shake after w/o, turkey and provolone pita sandwich for lunch, and fruit for dinner.  

I think your workout is just fine.........looks like a nice balance of conditioning and some strength work. P90x is just fine for helping one get and maintain strength for martial arts and fight sports.

as for diet, if you're taking in less than you're expending, along with significant physical energy expenditure, and you've stalled in your fat loss efforts, it might be time take a week long diet break. Without getting too in depth, long periods of dieting can lead to a down regulation of the hormones and brain chemicals that regulate metabolism. Usually a 5-7 day break with elevated calories and carbohydrates is enough to  correct diet induced metabolic disfunction.

Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
No worries as to how far along anyone is or isn't in the powerlifts, Louie can teach a rank beginner how to deadlift just about better than anyone on the planet.

edit to say that there's nothing particularly wrong with the clip you posted.................not a great explanation of the  technical aspect of the lift, but nothing dangerous about it

Thanks - it was just a quick grab from youtube while I was at work! 

i feel like a million pound beast.

i cant get out of bed.


My hamstrings are refusing to work.


i love it.