I've heard of some riders of models with under seat exhausts that put out extreme heat .So much so that they have wrapped their exhaust pipes to cut down the heat . My 1098R puts out so much heat that riding on a cool day (68 degrees) with Dainese Firefly leathers , my inner thighs were feeling like they were on a slow burn heading for an all out scorching. I'd be interested to know if you have wrapped your exhaust pipes and how effective you found it to be and who's wrap did you use . One person  I talked to suggested I "go faster" but on the street that isn't an option and I don't think it will work anyway. Thanks.

i have about 6" wrapped of one tube where my heel hits, works ok but still melts my running shoes when i rarely wear them while taking short rides.  my sidis are fine resting right on it though.

i think ceramic coat would look much better on a 1098r

Quote from: aaronb on June 19, 2008, 09:37:35 PM
i have about 6" wrapped of one tube where my heel hits, works ok but still melts my running shoes when i rarely wear them while taking short rides.  my sidis are fine resting right on it though.

i think ceramic coat would look much better on a 1098r

I have a decent size CF heat shield for my boot but it's all the heat from the pipes radiating out and up. Like there is an air pocket in there where the air doesn't move around.

sperbikes are brutal with the heat they put out (heat =hp) and there are not a lot of great options out there. Aftermarket cans do run cooler but most of the heat comes off the pipe on the right side (makes an under engine exhaust sound good).

header wrap is probably some type of asbestos/fiberglass wrap, it would make it cooler but the stuff wears and frays over time with wear.
I think you need nomex pants.

I use header wrap quite a bit. Soak it, then stretch TIGHT while wrapping, and finish off by securing with saftey wire.

Quote from: Norm on June 20, 2008, 07:15:05 AM
I use header wrap quite a bit. Soak it, then stretch TIGHT while wrapping, and finish off by securing with saftey wire.

So you wrap your entire exhaust and you soak it w/ what ? When you speak of safety wire is that wire that comes w/ the wrap ?

i posted this on SBN, CDC:
http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=1675.0

Quotei just thought i would add to this section, i wrote this to help another rider on SBN.  so here, i hope it helps someone.


To make the wrap look good you need to take your time installing it. Buy 2 inch tape or it will take forever to install!

Soak the tape in water and install it while it is wet. This will make it very compliant and it will tighten even more when it dries.

Start about 1 inch below the header flange at the back of the pipe. Wrap upwards to the flange, try to get there in 1/2 revolution. Go all the way around so you are over lapping your first loop (this must be tight to hold loose end firmly) and then work downwards. Be sure to keep the tape tight at all times.  If using 2 inch tape try to overlap exactly 1 inch, That will make the tape a consistent thickness. Be creative around any fittings or crossover tubes. Be careful not to over lap the tape multiple times or bunch it up anywhere, this can cause hot spots on the pipe.

When it is time to stop you can either use a specific clamp sold by most places that sell header wrap or I prefer a few loops of stainless safety wire.

If you choose to use black put a drop cloth under the bike because the water that runs out as you stretch the tape will stain concrete.  (ask me how i know  )

Also you need a lot of tape. here is the equation - per pipe (just a rough estimate, when putting it will stretch slightly)

Lt = (D x pi x Lp)/(6 x W)

Lp = length of pipe (inch), D = diameter of pipe (in), W = width of tape (in), Lt = length of tape (Ft)

Using this, 20" of 1.5" pipe would take just under 8 feet of 2" tape.


I have included a pic of a short section I did on my duc. after getting wet a few times it will fade from black to grey. As you can see I still melted a bit of my shoe onto it, but my Sidis don't melt, just another reason to always wear all of my gear.   Smiley

but i still think you will be more happy if you have the pipe professionally ceramic coated

I've been told the cat converter is right under the seat, which generates a lot of the heat.  Termi slip-ons might help with the heat. 

This could be all bullshit.  I'm still learning myself. 

you might look into ceramic coating.
i have heard it does a better job at dispersing the heat and not making "hot spots"
just something for ya to look in to

Well get this............today I road the 1098 R   96 miles in the hills of South Eastern, Ohio and didn't have a heat problem because I came up w/ a cheap, easy fix. You know those foam back protector pads that are in some riding jackets , they are keyhole shaped. Well I got this idea that if I put one on the inside of my thigh, inside my leather pants that it might block the heat enough to make it fairly bearable. Well I had a couple from some jackets that I don't use and I stuffed them down around my inner thighs and by golly it worked. It made enough of a barrier that riding was pleasant.

Hey ,cheap ,easy fix for the time being ...........I'll have to see if it continues to work as time goes on.

Ceramic coating and pipe wrap serve two different (albeit related) purposes.

Ceramic coating distributes heat preventing hotspots, but it doesn't prevent the pipes from being hot. 

Pipe wrap does not distribute heat, so you can still can get hotspots, but they are insulated under the wrap.

Wrap is mainly for keeping engine compartments cool(er) think of race car.  Likewise for protecting a rider on a bike.

I have ceramic coating on my pipes, end to end (even disassembled the cans and had the insides done).  My boots still melt on the rear header (S2R)

Sounds like you found a good cheap option, but FWIW based on my experience with wrap I would bet that would not have made as much difference.  I fully wrapped my pipes, for a fun project, and partly for looks, and I was surprised that even after that it still got hot enought to melt the heel of my boot.

If you do try it, though, the soaking in water part does help and is correct.  Soak, wrap tight, about a 1/4 inch overlap on each layer, let dry, and ideally use the recommended spray paint high temp silicon paint. That helps keep it from wearing out, clean, etc. but can take a lot of work on a full system, to mask off the rest of the bike in plastic or paper. Fun, but time consuming.

I don't know if the kits supply safety wire or not. It's the same stuff you'd use if you were prepping a race bike & is pretty cheap. A pair of safety wire pliers aren't manditory, but makes life a little easier.

If anyone has any photos of their Monster with heat wrapping done on it, please post a photo.  Really thinking of doing this, but I just can't visualize what the finished product would look like.  Thanks in advance!

PM me if you have any questions on how I did mine.