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Removing Side Cases for Painting (S2R)

Started by corey, March 21, 2011, 05:31:13 PM

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corey

So i tried searching for about 30 minutes, and just couldn't really yield any results.
I have an oil changing happening shortly, and am considering removing my side cases to paint (spray job, probably grill paint).

Does anyone have any insight into the removal and reinstall process?
What would i need (gaskets, sealants, special tools, etc. etc.)?
What type of paint should i use (i like the "wrinkle" type finish of the grill paint i've seen some others do)?
Any other details, etc.

Thanks in advance folks!

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hackers2r

Clutch side is really easy.  Undo bolts, tap the edges with rubber mallet and remove.  I just did this to remove the sound deadener.  Alternator side, seems more difficult.  I'll let someone chime in who may have some experience there.  I used the Ducati liquid gasket to reinstall.  Pretty easy stuff to work with.

silversled


Corey,
If you're going to take the trouble to remove the covers, then get them powder coated.  Using a rattle can will only be wasted effort in the end. Oils, cleaners, and rocks will eventually discolor or remove your spray job.  If you ever remove your tank and you spill gas on the covers, they're done. 

You will need to buy or fabricate a case puller for alternator cover.  Once that's removed, you'll need to remove the stator, gear selector shaft seal and pull a bearing.  For the clutch cover, you'll need to remove the clutch assembly.  Once that's off, you'll need to remove the primary gear oil seal, tap out the oil sight glass, pull an internal oil seal and a couple of other small items. 

These are the covers off my S2R1000 after coming back from the powder coaters. 



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hackers2r

Negative on removing the clutch...it's a wet clutch.

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corey

Thanks for info guys.
I'm pretty set on painting vs. powdercoating... I understand PC would be more durable in the long run, but I definitely don't want to go through all the prep hassles involved with powdercoating the side cases.

From the sounds of it, I want to paint, I just have to basically remove the covers and paint them.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but all i would really need are gaskets, right?
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booger

If you're a goop guy, use goop. If you don't want to mess with the gasket goop use the CA Cycleworks fiber gaskets. You might have to replace the shim on the sensor pickup with a thinner one if you use the gasket though. Clutch side should be fine with a gasket.
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corey

Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 22, 2011, 12:48:33 PM
If you're a goop guy, use goop. If you don't want to mess with the gasket goop use the CA Cycleworks fiber gaskets. You might have to replace the shim on the sensor pickup with a thinner one if you use the gasket though. Clutch side should be fine with a gasket.

Can you elaborate on this shim?
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corey

deciding to hold off on this one.
might try and find some used side cases to jazz up and then just swap em.
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EEL

PM sent I've got a brand new clutch cover still in box

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corey

Quote from: hackers2r on March 21, 2011, 06:14:38 PM
Clutch side is really easy.  Undo bolts, tap the edges with rubber mallet and remove.  I just did this to remove the sound deadener.

Zombie Thread... I FINALLY have my clutch cover off... Is it actually OKAY to remove this sound deadener? Does it mess w/ oil volume or pressure at all? Does it make a difference without (and by that I mean does it sound cooler?)
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BlackKat

Corey,
Just a heads up...Paint will be just fine. I've painted multiple sets. The side cases don't get hot enough to hurt the paint. Just make sure they are clean...like super clean...parts washer...bike brite and I have even heard of people putting them in a dish washer...If you are going with black, PJ1 makes a paint called "satin black case paint", For a rattle can, this stuff is fantastic. Any shop who deals with parts unlimited can order it for you. My tech with 30+ years experience swears by it ( he really doesn't like ANYTHING-grouchy old dude!) and has used it on countless builds.

As far as powder coating...order all new gaskets and ask that they chemically strip the paint off...the cases from ducati are really crappy under the paint...pock marks, inconsistencies in the material everywhere. I just sent a set to performance coatings in washington for powder coating so the would match a set of cylinders and then came back looking like crap! I had to bead blast them and spend a few hours with a file and sand paper to make them look right again...LESSON LEARNED!