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My review of the eBay knock-off adjustable levers

Started by xplodee, March 22, 2011, 05:06:19 PM

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xplodee

I bought and installed a set of eBay knock-off roll-a-click levers from the popular seller, mlabel. Unlike a few of the previous reviews I've read, I also have a set of pazzo shorty levers on hand to compare against.

In short I conclude that the eBay levers NOT not worth the ~$100 savings over pazzo or CRG, and here's why in order of increasing relevance:

1) the clickers are supposed to be anodized red but they look pink. Really ugly and sticks out when viewed next to the pazzo levers. My neighbor even asked "what do the pink things do?"

2) the fillets (radiuses) around the edges of the lever are way too small. The back sides of each lever especially feel sharp. Because the clutch side which gets pulled in further, it cut into your fingers if you don't leave all four on the lever when you engage. Very uncomfortable and lame. Yes one could wear gloves, but so what.

3) the worst thing of all is that the play/slop in the levers is terrible. I measured the tolerances in the two bearing fits within each lever compared to stock and the pazzo and found that the eBay levers have over twice as much clearance with each bore as both the pazzo and the stock levers. In other words, if Ducati designed in a 0.004" clearance for the bushings, the Chinese ones usually had around 0.010" or so. This results in way too much wobble/slop in the levers considering you're only saving $100 over the other brands.

Otherwise I found the levers very similar. The black anodizing was high quality and while there were more obvious machine marks on the eBay levers, it wasn't terrible. Even my pazzo's show a lot of machining marks. It's because they're machined ;)

I wouldn't buy again and don't recommend them. You can fix them by making new bushings, but why should I have to bother? Besides, the first two items on the list can't be fixed.
2009 M1100s
1988 Honda Hawk GT (track)

Past Bikes:
1995 Ducati Supersport 900CR
2007 Ducati Sportclassic S1000 SE

DucHead

FWIW, I have both knock-offs (not mlabel) and Pazzos, and my knock-offs are indistinguishable from the Pazzos.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

xplodee

Which brand of knock-offs did you buy? They don't have more slop than your pazzo's?
2009 M1100s
1988 Honda Hawk GT (track)

Past Bikes:
1995 Ducati Supersport 900CR
2007 Ducati Sportclassic S1000 SE

DucHead

Quote from: xplodee on March 22, 2011, 05:17:19 PM
Which brand of knock-offs did you buy? They don't have more slop than your pazzo's?

Mine came from "The2Wheels," and have no more play/slop than the Pazzos. 
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

xplodee

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Folding-Foldable-Levers-Ducati-Monster-S4RS-M1100-S-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4155cea8fcQQitemZ280612481276QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_9578wt_1013

Wow, wish I knew this and saw those first. I might pick them up. In the mean time I've got some Motowheels folding levers on their way.

Am I the only one that doesn't like "shorty" levers? Not enough leverage.
2009 M1100s
1988 Honda Hawk GT (track)

Past Bikes:
1995 Ducati Supersport 900CR
2007 Ducati Sportclassic S1000 SE

OBNOXS

Quote from: xplodee on March 22, 2011, 05:58:34 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Folding-Foldable-Levers-Ducati-Monster-S4RS-M1100-S-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4155cea8fcQQitemZ280612481276QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_9578wt_1013

Wow, wish I knew this and saw those first. I might pick them up. In the mean time I've got some Motowheels folding levers on their way.

Am I the only one that doesn't like "shorty" levers? Not enough leverage.

So if you bought them that would be at least 5 different sets of levers, including stock. You can be the official lever review guy!

He Man

do me a favor when you get those (if you can) weigh them.

Good is heavy. I have FP racing levers (retail $199, i got them on a xmas deal for $159 with lvl 3 anodizing for +$10 more)

i have gone down on them twice. they are perfectly fine, even though one of them destroyed my clip on tube and was in excess of 60mph on a corner around NJMP.
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pennyrobber

Quote from: He Man on March 22, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
do me a favor when you get those (if you can) weigh them.

Good is heavy. I have FP racing levers (retail $199, i got them on a xmas deal for $159 with lvl 3 anodizing for +$10 more)

i have gone down on them twice. they are perfectly fine, even though one of them destroyed my clip on tube and was in excess of 60mph on a corner around NJMP.

I also have FP levers. Good quality at a reasonable price.

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Artful

I'm with DucHead, my fleaBay non-folding adjustable levers are indistinguishable from the CRG/Pazzo jobbers.
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errazor

riding with knock-offs would make me feel cheap.
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thought

Quote from: DucHead on March 22, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
FWIW, I have both knock-offs (not mlabel) and Pazzos, and my knock-offs are indistinguishable from the Pazzos.

could you happen to post a pic of your levers?  i'm thinking about getting the ones that xplodee linked... but wondering if they would suffer from the pink lever vs red lever issue.

i know i could probably get them in black, but i've always like the contrast of the red vs the black on this type...
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'05 SV650N - Sold

DucHead

Quote from: thought on March 23, 2011, 08:50:45 AM
could you happen to post a pic of your levers?  i'm thinking about getting the ones that xplodee linked... but wondering if they would suffer from the pink lever vs red lever issue.

i know i could probably get them in black, but i've always like the contrast of the red vs the black on this type...

I'll post a pic this evening.  My adjusters are dark red.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

thought

'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

Mike Qube

How long did it take everyone to get thier levers? I ordered some from mlabel about three weeks ago and still have yet to see them.