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Started by DucsLikeBread, March 21, 2011, 10:30:24 PM

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DucsLikeBread

Hello everyone! My tag Mr. It describes me i am the It guy lol....I fell in love with bikes after i gazed upon a ducati monster classic sports edition and made it my goal to learn how to ride then get my hands on a ducati monster.I am 23years just finished the CHP (California Highway Patrol) safety course about a week ago.I purchased a 2004 Ducati Moster 620ie right after i finished the course and i love every minute i spent on the bike.I would really love it if you guys could tell me what mods or upgrades i can do to the bike to improve comfort and performance.Not like the bike needs it but it would be fun to get my hands dirty.Thanks for taking a look hope to see you on the rode!

bikepilot

Welcome!  [clap]

There's an enormous amount that can be done to the bike.  For now I'd focus on learning to ride it better - a track day school will make a much bigger difference than a few more hp.

Make sure you've already done the free stuff like set the sag properly, correct tire pressure etc., then the maintenance stuff like a good chain and sprocket, good tires, brake pads, brake and clutch bled/flushed with clean fluid, clean air filter, belts, valve adjustments etc.

Aftermarket cans are nice for more sound and (a tiny) bit more power.  There's an assortment of different seats available - the stock seat from a bigger CC monster is a bit taller and gives more leg room, Sargent and Corbin make aftermarket seats and ducati offers a "touring" seat.  Probably the most useful thing to upgrade when you get serious about modifying the bike is the suspension. Generally folks tend to go with either superbike forks or valve kits and springs for the stock forks and some sort of swapped in or aftermarket rear shock (penske does a nice rear shock that fits without major mods, most swaps will require that you cut off the coil mounting bracket, relocate the coil and do away with the oil collector).



2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

DucsLikeBread

I try to ride everyday and i would love to join a track course so i will look into to that right away.Sounds like i have to plan my upgrades very carefully and learn how to do them myself aswell.Any suggestions on where i can learn the ins and outs of a motorcycle? Thank You Bikepilot for your help. [thumbsup]

Slide Panda

There's a ton of info on this site, and a lot of helpful folks. I'd suggest you look in the Tutorials section - there's a lot of pan monster info.

If you have more specific questions then it's time to haunt Tech or Accessories & Mods. I'd wager that 80-90% of the time your question will probably have been addressed already, and a search should reveal what you need. But if that's not the case, or you need more info just ask away.

There's also a Riding Techniques section which never hurts to look over. And while I'm on that soap box, I'd suggest Lee Parks book Total Control as something good to get and read.

As BP mentioned getting the suspension addressed is a good mod. From the factory, most ducati is set too soft for an 'Merican - usually for a 160 pound rider (remember that includes protective gear) - So for me at 230 in gear, it goes squish.

As far as comfort... that's really a personal issue. So I'd suggest you start a thread in Acc & Mods and describe your discomfort points.

And while I'm wasting my employers bucks - do you have service records for that bike? Ducati recommends the cam belts be replaced at 2 years of age or 12k miles. A number of folks push them further, but that's ones that are in regular use. Sitting a long time makes them brittle in spots. If you're not sure how old they are, I'd replace them.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

freeclimbmtb

Quote from: Mr. It on March 21, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
I would really love it if you guys could tell me what mods or upgrades i can do to the bike to improve comfort and performance.Not like the bike needs it but it would be fun to get my hands dirty.Thanks for taking a look hope to see you on the rode!

My advise: Take a good long time looking over your bike and making note of what you like about it and what you dont like about it.  Then go through the "Official Bikes of the DMF" thread and see what mods other people have done.  That thread is filled with TONS of incredible bikes with more unique ideas than you could imagine.  It all depends on what direction you want to go with your bike, whether it be a minimalistic look, or a one with more bells and whistles so to speak.  I try not to tell people what mods to do, but I will certainly try to offer an opinion if asked.

And I have a friend/coworker that just bought herself an almost identical bike to yours! Congrats!
2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.

DucsLikeBread

Thank you all for your help. Sad Panda i dont have the service records for it but the bike only had 5k miles on it.I will make note to change the belt and possibly try that myself with the help of this wonderful forum and people like you guys who desire to help. I still dont know how to fully use the forum how do you use quotes? Lol i never joined a forum before, never had something to be passionate about. Freeclimbmtb i will take a look at that thnx for your feedback! Once again thnx guys  [thumbsup]

Slow Guy

The absolute most important mod ever is the Cars Suck sticker....just sayin



after that then you can get around to all that silly learning to ride and junk!  I kid I kid! Suspension first! Changes the whole motorsickle and makes it way more enjoyable.  How you set as far as gear?  Gravity sucks and often tries to test the new.

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Quote from: Mr. It on March 24, 2011, 03:54:15 PM
Thank you all for your help. Sad Panda i dont have the service records for it but the bike only had 5k miles on it.I will make note to change the belt and possibly try that myself with the help of this wonderful forum and people like you guys who desire to help. I still dont know how to fully use the forum how do you use quotes? Lol i never joined a forum before, never had something to be passionate about. Freeclimbmtb i will take a look at that thnx for your feedback! Once again thnx guys  [thumbsup]
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2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.

Slide Panda

You can either just hit the quote button to the upper right on any post, and that will start a reply post with that quote in it. You can also hit 'reply' and then inject a quote later on after typing a bit like so:

Quote from: Mr. It on March 24, 2011, 03:54:15 PM
I still dont know how to fully use the forum how do you use quotes? Lol i never joined a forum before, never had something to be passionate about. Freeclimbmtb i will take a look at that thnx for your feedback! Once again thnx guys  [thumbsup]

By just scrolling down to the post you want to quote and hit that same quote button and it'll dump that post quote into the editor field.

-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

DucsLikeBread

Quote from: Sad Panda on March 25, 2011, 09:30:41 AM
You can either just hit the quote button to the upper right on any post, and that will start a reply post with that quote in it. You can also hit 'reply' and then inject a quote later on after typing a bit like so:

By just scrolling down to the post you want to quote and hit that same quote button and it'll dump that post quote into the editor field.



Got it thnx since i sign on to the forum from my phone most of the time everything does not fit on the screen unless i flip it. Im set on gear Slow Guy assuming you are talking about riding gear.
Quote from: freeclimbmtb on March 24, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
My advise: Take a good long time looking over your bike and making note of what you like about it and what you dont like about it.  Then go through the "Official Bikes of the DMF" thread and see what mods other people have done.  That thread is filled with TONS of incredible bikes with more unique ideas than you could imagine.  It all depends on what direction you want to go with your bike, whether it be a minimalistic look, or a one with more bells and whistles so to speak.  I try not to tell people what mods to do, but I will certainly try to offer an opinion if asked.

And I have a friend/coworker that just bought herself an almost identical bike to yours! Congrats!
I could not find the thread. Please post the link or point the way! Thnx

freeclimbmtb

2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.

DucsLikeBread

Thnx freeclimbmtb...i have another question, i have no knowledge of motorcycle mechanics or anythingvof that sort but i want to do my own oil change and maintnance. Should i do the oil change myself or just take it to a shop like pro italia?

Slide Panda

We've got a pretty extensive tutorials section. I'm pretty sure oil changed have been covered. If not there , then tech. If not tech, you can always ask. 

But if you have have any ounce if mechanical inclination, then an oil change should be no problem. I'd recommend you get a rear stand fir the job as it does make it easier. But it isn't necessary if you have a slim enough drain pan. But changing the oil on a Monster is one of the easiest tasks in all of bike maintenance.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

DucsLikeBread

I have never worked on a car or a bike so it will be my first time doin anything mechanic oriented, but i should be fine if i can just get some instructions. I will take a look in the sections you mentioned and will also look into purchasing a stand. Theres different types of stands from what i have seen online if i plan to use it for more then just changing the oil, say like changing the brakes or belts what kind of stand would be best? Also to change parts in the bike since i do plan to make modifications to it myself.

freeclimbmtb

Quote from: Mr. It on March 26, 2011, 05:47:40 PM
I have never worked on a car or a bike so it will be my first time doin anything mechanic oriented, but i should be fine if i can just get some instructions. I will take a look in the sections you mentioned and will also look into purchasing a stand. Theres different types of stands from what i have seen online if i plan to use it for more then just changing the oil, say like changing the brakes or belts what kind of stand would be best? Also to change parts in the bike since i do plan to make modifications to it myself.

I finally just broke down and bought a rearstand, previously I have just made do with the side stand for everything I had done on my monster...  I dont know off hand (I'm sure someone will comment on this) if your bike has holes in the swingarm for threaded bobbins, if it does I would recomend getting that type of rearstand as it has a little more positive engagement with the swing arm.  In my case, I had to get a stand that uses flat tabs that go under the bottom of the swingarm because I dont have those bobbin holes.  Whatever you get, I recomend having a friend hold the bike steady the first time you put it on the stand just so you get a feel for how the weight shifts.  I have a friend that dropped his REPSOL CBR1000R  on the ground because he didnt have the stand lined up quite right.  As for doing other maintanance, you can get a similar stand for the front of the bike to get the front wheel up as well (also not a bad way to store the bike) but I have seen plenty of people rig straps to the ceiling to hold the front up for pulling a wheel etc.
2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.