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Started by zooom, March 31, 2011, 07:07:03 AM

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March 31, 2011, 07:07:03 AM Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 09:05:11 AM by Speeddog
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El Matador

#1
March 31, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
Interesting for sure. Though I would place Lorenzo as a favourite to win this over Stoner. He has historically performed much better than the Aussie. Was that a little Lorenzo hate that I caught seething through the words? So much for impartiality of the press

duccarlos

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March 31, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
I would generally give the advantage for home field, in this case the Spaniards. If Pedrosa was not hurt, I would have him as the favorite. Even when hurt, I think the combo of knowing the track and riding the Honda still makes him a favorite. Lorenzo of course is up there, but Stoner on the Honda is by far the safest money.
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#3
March 31, 2011, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on March 31, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
If Pedrosa was not hurt, I would have him as the favorite.

he's having surgery after this race for 'intermittent compression of the subclavian artery'.  i would look for him to survive this one and that's about it. 
Like this is the racing, no?

gm2

#4
March 31, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: El Matador on March 31, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
So much for impartiality of the press

that idea gets really IZ_ with the extension to something like mm.  is emmett the Press?  or is he some guy writing a blog?  arguably everything he writes is opinion.
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

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March 31, 2011, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: gm2 on March 31, 2011, 09:32:44 AM
he's having surgery after this race for 'intermittent compression of the subclavian artery'.  i would look for him to survive this one and that's about it. 

I assume that is different than stretching of the nerve bundle.  Jebus, how many different diagnoses has this guy had?

http://crash.net/motogp/news/167967/1/dani_pedrosa_to_undergo_surgery_after_jerez.html

I don't know squat about medicine, but that sounds like a better diagnosis than a nerve problem, and it *sounds* like surgery will take care of it--his season might not be a total loss. 

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#6
March 31, 2011, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: Spidey on March 31, 2011, 10:46:45 AM
I assume that is different than stretching of the nerve bundle.  Jebus, how many different diagnoses has this guy had?

http://crash.net/motogp/news/167967/1/dani_pedrosa_to_undergo_surgery_after_jerez.html

I don't know squat about medicine, but that sounds like a better diagnosis than a nerve problem, and it *sounds* like surgery will take care of it--his season might not be a total loss. 


Neither diagnosis is great, nor does either carry a surefire likelihood of cure... could be a lingering, even career-threatening problem. Just depends on what the cause is and how bad the compression is. I'm gonna ask an ortho friend about it later.
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#7
March 31, 2011, 02:37:59 PM
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Like this is the racing, no?

Speeddog

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March 31, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: El Matador on March 31, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
Interesting for sure. Though I would place Lorenzo as a favourite to win this over Stoner. He has historically performed much better than the Aussie. Was that a little Lorenzo hate that I caught seething through the words? So much for impartiality of the press

I just re-read the MM article, what struck you as 'Lorenzo hate'?

I didn't get any of that vibe... ???
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March 31, 2011, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on March 31, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
I just re-read the MM article, what struck you as 'Lorenzo hate'?

I didn't get any of that vibe... ???

"sometimes belabored victory celebrations" was the only thing i noticed.  which aint much.
Like this is the racing, no?

Cider

#10
March 31, 2011, 03:29:13 PM
Quote from: gm2 on March 31, 2011, 02:52:14 PM
"sometimes belabored victory celebrations"

Fact, not opinion  :D

gm2

#11
March 31, 2011, 04:19:54 PM
Like this is the racing, no?

Triple J

#12
March 31, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
Stoner may whine at times...but he has a valid point about being undervalued IMO. Especially when you also consider the failed J-Lo acquisition last year.

ducpainter

#13
March 31, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: Triple J on March 31, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
Stoner may whine at times...but he has a valid point about being undervalued IMO. Especially when you also consider the failed J-Lo acquisition last year.
True...they gave him no credit.

but from the factory's point of view he was still fast and a contender.

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When Casey left, Ducati was in the position of having no one crazy/talented enough to go fast on the bike as is...

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gm2

#14
March 31, 2011, 05:06:30 PM
...and now they have a lot more money.

they may have undervalued casey but they may also not have had the resources to do what he asked.. or at least as quickly as he asked.
Like this is the racing, no?
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