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2011 WSBK Round 3 - Assen (Spoilers! Races 4/17)

Started by gm2, April 15, 2011, 05:57:26 AM

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webspoke

Toseland was actually a really good commentator, lots of insights and good observations from him.  Checa making the soft tire work even when pushed hard at the end was impressive.  He's got a nice cushion of points now to suffer through the faster tracks.
Streetfighter 1098S

fastwin

Quote from: bdfinally on April 18, 2011, 04:56:37 AM
Didn't they force them to use the normal belts/chain and do away with the trick valve "kit?"

That's my understanding. There was something in the rules that allowed them to run the gear driven cam set up last year. The specifics of the rule fail me at the moment, but now they have to run the stock street set up like everyone else. Someone who knows the rules better should chime in with a more clear explanation. ;D
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Spidey

#32
Someone is gonna kick Melandri in his nutsack if he keeps this up.  It might even be his teammate.  In the meanwhile, I'm loving it.  

I'm still perplexed by Rea.  And the BMWs.    

Assen always makes for guuuuud racing.   [thumbsup]

Quote from: webspoke on April 18, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
He's got a nice cushion of points now to suffer through the faster tracks.

It's definitely a cushion, but it's not that strong.  All it takes is one weekend of Max getting 1st and him getting 5th and Checa's lead won't be much at all. 
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gm2

Quote from: DoubleEagle on April 17, 2011, 08:25:47 PM
So what happened over the Winter ?

Did the 1098 R get faster or did the Aprilila get slower ?

the duc and checa were very fast last year, also.. at tracks that aren't monza/monza-ish.  and now that bike basically is the factory bike.

Quote from: webspoke on April 18, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Toseland was actually a really good commentator, lots of insights and good observations from him.

[thumbsup]

Quote from: Spidey on April 18, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
Someone is gonna kick Melandri in his nutsack if he keeps this up.  It might even be his teammate.  In the meanwhile, I'm loving it. 

hell yeah.  those passes were all pretty ragged.  and awesome.

Quote from: Spidey on April 18, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
I'm still perplexed by Rea. 

i think if his wrist(s) started to bother him he wouldn't say it.


Quote from: Spidey on April 18, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
And the BMWs.   

like the kawis, they haven't figured out how not to eat up the rear tire yet.
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

Quote from: gm2 on April 18, 2011, 03:09:43 PM
i think if his wrist(s) started to bother him he wouldn't say it.

Yeah, but it's more than just that.  Last year, I thought he'd be one of the front-runners with Biaggi, given the tear he went on in late 2009 (IIRC).  But then he'd alternate between brilliant and mid-pack, with an occasional rookie-lookin' raggedy Biaggi-at-Donington type of ride thrown in to boot.  I know some of the inconsistency is that the Honda is fickle and it's hard to get it set up.  And this season can mostly be chalked up to riding injured.  But I still feel like he should be consistently up front more than he is, especially if he has MotoGP aspirations.

The BMWs (and the kwaks) show that it's a lot easier to build a bike that's powerful than a bike that is well-balanced.

+ whateveritisnow on Toseland as a commentator.  I mean, he's gotta be good at something.  He is teh suxor at racing. 
Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.

gm2

Quote from: Spidey on April 18, 2011, 04:01:07 PM
He is teh suxor at racing. 

[laugh].  i know 2007 is now 4 years ago but he still gets credit for killing it that year. 

still, probably a better commentator now.  he sure as hell was on it in terms of who was doing what and what exactly the track was like in any given corner.  he brings a true racer's view to things, even moreso than martin

Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

#36
Quote from: gm2 on April 18, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
[laugh].  i know 2007 is now 4 years ago but he still gets credit for killing it that year.  

Since this is an Assen thread and we're talking about way back when JT could still ride a motorcycle, wasn't it Assen 2007 where he and Bayliss beat the shit out of each other for the last coupla laps in an epic battle?

I wish JT was on this year's Yamaha.  Then we could tell if he is really broken or if it was just a bad stint in GP followed by shitty luck/bikes since then.  Until he proves otherwise, I think it's the former.  

Edit:  Ahhh . . . found the good stuff.  Enjoy.

WSBK Assen 2007 race 2
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fastwin

Holy shit what a great race for Checa!! Just watched race #2 and damn! What a race? He kicked ass with Max on his tail. Does it get any better? ;D Again, I also love MotoGP but the racing in WSBK is just awesome!!
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

DoubleEagle

You want to see some good racing buy the 2009 WSBK season on DVD.

Troy did some amazing racing .

He was so fast on some of the tracks you'd think the other guys just gave up.

You can see a " Duc " pretty much fly !

Dolph
'08 Ducati 1098 R    '09 BMW K 1300 GT   '10 BMW S 1000 RR

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Spidey

I'd pay a ton of money to see footage of Troy smoking people on a Duc in WSBK in 2009.   ;D
Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.

Triple J

Quote from: DoubleEagle on April 18, 2011, 11:45:16 PM
You want to see some good racing buy the 2009 WSBK season on DVD.

Troy did some amazing racing .

He was so fast on some of the tracks you'd think the other guys just gave up.

2008. Haga & Fabrizio were the Duc riders in 2009 & 2010.

gm2

since we're talking assen and 2009, where there was no troy, the ben in race 1 was some of the best racing i've ever seen.  that move on haslam was amazing.. then was quickly overshadowed by that unbelievable move on haga.  schwantz said something like, sure, i've considered passing there.  but i would never do it.


Quote from: Spidey on April 18, 2011, 07:31:33 PM
I wish JT was on this year's Yamaha.  Then we could tell if he is really broken or if it was just a bad stint in GP followed by shitty luck/bikes since then.  Until he proves otherwise, I think it's the former.   

his stint in GP wasn't bad.. until they took the michelins away from him.
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

Quote from: gm2 on April 19, 2011, 10:06:19 AM
since we're talking assen and 2009, where there was no troy, the ben in race 1 was some of the best racing i've ever seen.  that move on haslam was amazing.. then was quickly overshadowed by that unbelievable move on haga.  schwantz said something like, sure, i've considered passing there.  but i would never do it.

I love Assen.

World Superbike Assen Netherlands 4-26-2009
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gm2

Like this is the racing, no?

Monsterlover

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