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Ryco filter substitute ?

Started by jaso1, July 09, 2011, 07:26:09 PM

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jaso1

Hi all .

Does anybody know of a Ryco brand oil filter part number that fits ducati's ?

I've done a bit of searching but not found one reference to ryco filter at all .

Thanks

Jason.

mattyvas

I'd be surprised if you could get a Ryco filter being they are more cars than bikes.
You can get a K&N that is usually about $25 but then the last Ducati one I bought was only $30

jaso1

From some of the stuff I've read there are several cross references to car filters that fit fine and are also in the requiered specs , trouble is I don't have a Ryco number to reference .  I'm pretty sure there will be one . 
Here is a list of compatiable filters I came across -  But no Ryco number ofcourse , lol .

AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)   
Motorcraft EFL 47
Champion H101   
NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)
Cooper Z64
Powertrain FL125
Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059   
Purflux LS187
Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)   
Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5)
Halfords HOF216   
Tecafilter Ref OC5
K & N KN-153   
Technocar R12, R72, R434
Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)   TJ FB2094
Mann & H W712/9, W712/11   
Unipart GFE 201

J5

i normally buy aftermarket filters for anything i own

hondas are easy $5 generic filter

the ducati has an odd thread size so my filter guy told me and that was $25 for a MANN filter

next option i thought about was to buy a bunch from the US as you can get aftermarket ones quite cheap over there $5-$10

and with the dollar up atm it could be a good opportunity to get some in

i have messaged an ebay seller and curious to hear back costs
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.


loony888

dunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway.

paul.
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dragonworld.

I've been using the K&N filters for 5 or 6 years now on both my older 750 and the newer 1000DS.

I have bought them from CA Cycleworks, usually 6 at a time and ATM they are $13 US. I buy them in bulk and save on shipping.

I like the K&N filter because its easy to loosen and tighten having a Hex nut shape molded into the top of the filter body.  [thumbsup]
No more dicking around with filter tools, just a socket or ring spanner does the job.  ;D

Secret to a long relationship is........Keep the fights clean and the sex DIRTY"!

rendang


Quotedunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway.


   What brands do you think are the best quality, and what do you think about the re-usable filters, as in the one pictured above your post ?
                                                                        cheers   Steve
S2R800,    0    , 750 GT, Rickman Honda, 450 'Silver Shotgun", 750 Sport, 250 Mark 3, Kwaka 500 triple.

loony888

Quote from: rendang on July 10, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
   What brands do you think are the best quality, and what do you think about the re-usable filters, as in the one pictured above your post ?
                                                                        cheers   Steve


best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same, what i would say is the genuine ducati filter is "fit for purpose" it's made under licence to a specific specification for ducati, aftermarket stuff is deliberately engineered to be cheaper, often with multiple applications in mind and things like bypass valves and the flow and pressures used _may_ be considerably different, i'm not saying other stuff is rubbish but i only trust genuine service parts.
As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already.
   In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding.

paul
HERE AND NOW                      12 DIAVEL AMG
                                              93 888 RS
                                              09 1098R BAYLISS
                                              07 Husqvarna TE 450

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN        03 S4R       95 900SL
                                              01 S4         93 900M
                                              96 748SP

mattyvas

Quote from: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 01:25:46 AM
dunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway.

paul.


My thoughts exactly Paul, I'm totally with you on that.
K&N is the only other filter I'd use other than a Ducati item.
Totally up to the user.

dragonworld.

Quote from: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 02:15:25 AM
best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same, what i would say is the genuine ducati filter is "fit for purpose" it's made under licence to a specific specification for ducati, aftermarket stuff is deliberately engineered to be cheaper, often with multiple applications in mind and things like bypass valves and the flow and pressures used _may_ be considerably different, i'm not saying other stuff is rubbish but i only trust genuine service parts.
As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already.
   In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding.

paul

Spot On Paul!!  [thumbsup] [clap]
Secret to a long relationship is........Keep the fights clean and the sex DIRTY"!

J5

Quote from: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 02:15:25 AM
best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same,

there is vast differences in aftermarket filters and there is quite a bit of info around regarding comparisons of different filters, you will normally see a bunch of pics of cut open filters

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html#OilFilters


Quote from: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 02:15:25 AM
As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already.

the stainless ones filter finer than paper and have the benefit of being able to be cleaned and reused , many dirt bikes have mesh ones from factory

but they do have their drawbacks

Quote from: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 02:15:25 AM
   In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding.

imho regular oil changes are the most important thing

funny thing about genuine filters

my holden colorado filter is $55 at holden yet $35 at isuzu or decent aftermarket is $20

friend has a holden cruise and it has a paper drop in filter and its $61  :o
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

FIFO

Some good links there J5

Will make me rethink  K,N filters, like the comment   ;)
(Made by Hi Flo. Average filter with a $6 nut welded onto the end cap.) :o
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

in memory of Brian W, 2010 /2015

jaso1

Ok done more research , (haven't found a Ryco equivalent yet) , but the best oil filter you can buy for a Ducati period apparently is an Amsoil EaOM138 which is a synthetic microfibre jiggy that filters down to 10 micron , has more space in it to capture dirt etc and flows 3/4 better than a standard paper type filter .

From what I've read reusable housing set-up with cleanable elements are not much chop even compared to standard filters !  

I'll proably just order in some K+N 153's as they are a ok unit , not good , not bad but ok .

 

brad black

i think it's a z92, from an alfa or the like.  i've seen a few fitted over the years.

genuine filters should only cost you $23 or so.
Brad The Bike Boy

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