Quote from: Raux on July 17, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/February/feb1710-ducati-plans-gp-style-frameless-superbikes/

Ah, thanks for the link. That was something I was wondering about: how would they make the CF/composite frame cheap enough to homologate. This seems to be their answer.

talk about bring up the rear. EVERY single ducati came in behind the single Suzuki and only had the two tech 3 Yahama's in the mix.

At least the 125 GP race was hot! Talk about a literal dead heat!!

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=45334

Quote from: Spidey on July 17, 2011, 07:25:12 AM
I'd love to hear what happened between The Ben and Super Sic.  Looked like they were jawing at each other as they crossed the line.  That, or The Ben was telling him "I own you."

+1  anyone find a pic yet of Spies throwing a kick at Sic as he was about to cross the finish line??  I want it!   

Quote from: IndustrialGrrrl on July 17, 2011, 02:14:32 PM
+1  anyone find a pic yet of Spies throwing a kick at Sic as he was about to cross the finish line??  I want it!   

Yeah. I was wondering "what dick move did supersic pull on the last lap to piss off Ben ?" 

Quote from: desmoquattro on July 17, 2011, 11:21:04 AM
Ah, thanks for the link. That was something I was wondering about: how would they make the CF/composite frame cheap enough to homologate. This seems to be their answer.

I'm pretty sure they said the new sbk would be aluminum for quite some time.  Besides, aluminum is a better material for this in my opinion and its what they should have been using on the GP bike instead of being exotic for the sake of being exotic.

Quote from: Drunken Monkey on July 17, 2011, 03:35:37 PM

This is a whole different interpretation on the "hanging the leg off the footpeg out in the breeze" MotoGP riding style!

A great race.
Champioship is down to the wire. Some tracks will suit the Honda, some the Yamaha. Laguna will be a ripper, can't wait. Stoner and George with Nicky and the Texans fighting it out!

Go Bautista! Hope it encourages Suzuki to dive back in.

Quote from: Raux on July 17, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/February/feb1710-ducati-plans-gp-style-frameless-superbikes/

Here's what worries me: I've heard stories that folks racing the 1198 (at the club level) have been having issues with cracked engine cases at the frame mounting points.   

Seems like Ducati don't quite have their shit together (lately) with the whole 'engine as a stressed member' thing. Seems to me they are overestimating the strength of their new "vacuum cast" cases and I can only see that getting worse with the new design.

Or maybe they are learning their lesson on the 1198 and they'll sort it out next year [fingerscrossed]

Best race of the season .......................so far   LS should be a cracker

Quote from: Jester on July 17, 2011, 03:44:40 PM
I'm pretty sure they said the new sbk would be aluminum for quite some time.  Besides, aluminum is a better material for this in my opinion and its what they should have been using on the GP bike instead of being exotic for the sake of being exotic.

I just don't know if Duc is heading in the right direction with the MotoGP team or the new SBK. Reminds me of the BMW WSBK team and their electronics package. We're doing it different no matter what, damned if it doesn't work! But we're doing it our way! Maybe they should buy one of the 10 Brittens and see how he did the frameless thing. Is it just me or don't you think some or all of the Jap teams would be all over this idea if their engineers thought it was a good one? When the Duc twins were kicking their asses in the 90s in WSBK and the rules were in Duc's favor guess what? RC51s and TL1000Rs showed up. Don't see them following Duc's lead here. If the race results were there they'd be all over this like stink. Glad all my Ducs are trellis framed bikes. Thoughts?? Comments??

Quote from: fastwin on July 17, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
I just don't know if Duc is heading in the right direction with the MotoGP team or the new SBK. Reminds me of the BMW WSBK team and their electronics package. We're doing it different no matter what, damned if it doesn't work! But we're doing it our way! Maybe they should buy one of the 10 Brittens and see how he did the frameless thing. Is it just me or don't you think some or all of the Jap teams would be all over this idea if their engineers thought it was a good one? When the Duc twins were kicking their asses in the 90s in WSBK and the rules were in Duc's favor guess what? RC51s and TL1000Rs showed up. Don't see them following Duc's lead here. If the race results were there they'd be all over this like stink. Glad all my Ducs are trellis framed bikes. Thoughts?? Comments??

I don't know if we're going down a technical rathole here to try to explain things. There are so many other factors: the team could be in turmoil..the riders could be far less than 100%. Do I blame certain technical aspects of the bike? Sure. But Casey rode the wheels off that thing, doing far better last year than Vale's doing this year. Something else is going on here.

Something else going on for sure! I didn't expect any miracles from Rossi this year any more than I did from The Ben on the factory Yammyhammer. But damn. I feel Rossi is twice the rider that The Ben is (with all due respect to Spies) and this is all he can do? And why is Nicky doing so much better than Vale? I don't hear that much about Vale's physical condition any more. That's not being used as an excuse. Curious minds want to know... what's up?

Very good race...2 in a row now. 

Moto2 was also very entertaining! 

The Duc is a piece of shit.