GP11 and all previous have had the swingarm pivot go through the cases, like everything since the Pantah, AFAIK.

GP12 swingarm pivot is not through the cases, so GP11 motor will not work with GP12 rear suspension parts.

Hence the destroked GP12, known as the GP11.1.

I think GP12.-1 is a more appropriate designation. 

Quote from: ducpainter
also according to the announcers the 800 engine in the GP11.1 is the 1000 engine destroked to 800.

How does that factor into the engine count for the year?  I thought they had to have the engines sealed at the start of the season?

Quote from: OT on July 18, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
How does that factor into the engine count for the year?  I thought they had to have the engines sealed at the start of the season?

not at the start... in fact, the teams generally don't have the motors sealed until shortly before they need them because it leaves them open to engine improvements throughout the season.

Quote from: OT on July 18, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
How does that factor into the engine count for the year?
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As of the beginning of this month, Hayden has 4 GP11 engines sealed.
Leaving him 2 of GP11 or GP11.1 configuration for the rest of the season.

As of Assen, Rossi had 3 GP11 and 2 GP11.1 engines sealed.
Leaving him 1 of GP11 or GP11.1 configuration for the rest of the season.

They can both take more engines beyond that, but then have to start the race from the pit lane.
A likely situation, as we've only reached halfway in the season.

I assume it's one pit lane race start for *each* engine taken.

Thanks for the info on the engines 

Might be interesting to see Sic start a race from pit lane 

Finally got 'round to watching the race.

Reasonably decent racing. Very nearly interesting, at times.

Quote from: Spidey on July 17, 2011, 07:25:12 AM


FTR, a Suzuki beat both factory Ducs, both of which are piloted by MotoGP World Champions.   

finally got around to watching it, and that was my first thought...


mitt

Quote from: Raux on July 18, 2011, 09:57:59 AM
comparing the avg speed at Assen this year

C. CHECA  168,199 km/h

V ROSSI  167.7 km/h

In fact, Checa with the WSBK 1198 would have finished 3rd in the Assen MotoGP race.

Yeah, I think Ducati has it backwards

that is f'd up!


mitt

Someone else said take Rossi's M1 and turn it into a duc.  If you notice the GP12 -.1 is starting to look like a M1 IMO.  The swing arm is the obvious difference.  They finally went chain through the bottom of the swingarm like Yamaha and Honda are doing.  Nicky's bike still has the chain through the top, and the "mud guard" integrated into the swingarm.


mitt