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Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?

Started by jfgducat, July 25, 2011, 07:31:42 AM

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jfgducat

so the site Gearing Commander came out with the top speeds of the
Monster 696/796/1100

here it goes top speed on 6 gear stock

696 128.5 MPH sprocket change 14t 119.9- 121.25 MPH
796 137.2 MPH sprocket change 14t 128.1- 129.62 MPH
1100 134.7 MPH sprocket change 14t 125.7- 127.21 MPH

696 1/4 12.31 seconds at 108.07 MPH
796 1/4 11.97 seconds at 112.30 MPH
1100 1/4 11.89 seconds at 112.23 MPH


M696 65.7PS 43.91lb-ft
M796 78.3PS 53.1lb-ft
M1100 81.7PS 67.3lb-f


http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/Nov2010Monster.pdf

is this the reason why ducati came out with the monster 1100 evo to create a real gap between the two?

2-Skinny

The torque curve is what would make the 1100 a different riding experience.  If you intended to have a passenger regularly or do touring with it, that is what a buyer would be concerned about- not that its top speed is 3 mph slower than a 796...
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

stopintime

If you check Gearing Commander, you'll see that they list max rpm different from what's the reality - AFAIK

696 at 9,000 rpm
796 at 8,250 rpm
1100 at 7,500 rpm

So, besides the wrong input - this is theoretical numbers that will be different when wind resistance stops a weaker bike sooner than it stops a stronger bike.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

jfgducat

has anyone tested the 796 and the 1100 whats your feed back?

asherrick

The 1100 has way more usable torque. If one can afford it, I see no reason to consider the 696 or 796.
'09 M1100s

ChrisH

Quote from: asherrick on July 25, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
The 1100 has way more usable torque. If one can afford it, I see no reason to consider the 696 or 796.

better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.
2010 Monster 696
2005 Honda Ruckus
1985 Honda Spree
-Austin Texas-

2-Skinny

Quote from: ChrisH on July 25, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.

If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

Raux

Quote from: 2-Skinny on July 25, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...

I never feel wanting for a larger motor... well when that freaking Ninja took off on me I did, but not sure even the 1100 would have made a difference.

Bishamon

Quote from: ChrisH on July 25, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.

Not to mention the 796 is a better city bike.  I chose the 796 over the 1100 because I already have a Sport 1000, and it can be frustrating riding in traffic - either lugging in second gear or holding it in first.  Sure, a sprocket change could help, but the 796 seems much happier without the need for modification.  Since I almost never ride on the highway, I didn't see the need for more power.  I have ridden the 1100evo as well, and while it wasn't available when I picked up the 796, I still would have chosen the same because it honestly didn't feel very different (and it didn't sound as nice with the stock exhaust, IMO).  It probably helps that I only weigh 130lbs at most.
2011 Monster 796
2007 Sport 1000 SE (SOLD) :(

dennisd

"wins" ???
If your only definition of winning is top speed you shouldn't be riding a monster anyway.  A more appropriate bike would be a streetfighter or superbike.  I seldom ride my M1100 over 80 to 90 but what fun getting there.  I have LOT'S more fun riding at 45 to 50 on twisties than 100+ straight.

But that's just my opinion...
Current: '14 M1200S; '09 BMW R1200GSA; '06 Harley Roadking; '02 Suzuki SV650N; all the others sold

ungeheuer

Quote from: dennisd on July 26, 2011, 01:35:44 PMBut that's just my opinion...
An opinion I pretty much share.  Theoretical "winning" on the stat sheet is of little relevance IMO. 

696, 796, 1100..... any Monster...   the fun is right here >>  [Dolph]
Ducati 1100S Monster Ducati 1260ST Multistrada + Moto Guzzi Griso 1200SE



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ChrisH

Quote from: 2-Skinny on July 25, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...

I could afford the 1100, but I chose the 696.......
2010 Monster 696
2005 Honda Ruckus
1985 Honda Spree
-Austin Texas-

loopsrider

#12
Your top speed on the 696 may be off a little... ;)

jsd2

I had a 696 but I wanted to get a new Monster.  I thought of the 796 but then the EVO came out.  I wanted ABS and the EVO is $1000 more than the 796 with ABS.  For the extra grand I get the 1100 motor, more adjustable suspension, and traction control.  I also really like the look and I think when some new pipes start coming out it will even look better.  It fits me better and is more comfortable for me than the 696 because I am tall with long legs and arms.  To me all this was worth an extra $1000.  I will probably never (actually most definitely)  see the top speed of any of these bikes so that is a non-issue.  So for me the EVO wins.

Jim     

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