Quote from: EvilSteve on September 19, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
Exbox - I've owned one. I bought it because it's the most out of the way. You can really see the rear wheel. It's centralized mass. It sounds good (subjective) and it is the simplest. Also, if you dump your bike, your exhaust will probably be fine.

Slightly negative it visually makes the bike look a little square at the front which isn't great but it's worth it for me because it makes the tail look awesome.

Thats a beautiful bike EvilSteve 

Thanks, don't own it anymore. Kinda wish I did when I look at this photo.

I have an M1100EVO now, looks similar.

Quote from: EvilSteve on September 19, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
Exbox - I've owned one. I bought it because it's the most out of the way. You can really see the rear wheel. It's centralized mass. It sounds good (subjective) and it is the simplest. Also, if you dump your bike, your exhaust will probably be fine.

Slightly negative it visually makes the bike look a little square at the front which isn't great but it's worth it for me because it makes the tail look awesome.

Exbox for the win!

Had full termi, went to bts.  Lost 2 hp,  lost 10 lbs up high,  bike feels a ton lighter.   I think it was worth the loss.  I could probably get it back by altering the baffling, but it's plenty good for now.   We'll see once head porting and high company piston time arrives

So I have to decide here. Do I go with Boomtubes or Exbox. IMO Boom Tubes are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye without that box and loud (better sound??) which I like  but could also be a little bit of a problem.  But there is also the performance issues discussed here. Will my bike run worse with Boom Tubes (I somehow find it hard to believe that they'd be that popular if your bike ran worse and that Mike would be making a mod that made your bike run worse)

The thing is I can get a great deal on an Ex-Box right NOW as opposed to paying $200 more and waiting until Dec/Jan till I get the Boom Tubes. But it is almost the end of riding season here anyway so I could wait for Boom Tubes... Damn I hate making decisions like this.

I think if I get the Ex-Box I'll always wish I got the Boom Tubes but somehow I dont think I'd feel that way about the Ex-Box if I got the Boom Tubes.

Somebody convince me already so I can shutup about this! 

Quote from: EvilSteve on September 19, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
Exbox - I've owned one. I bought it because it's the most out of the way. You can really see the rear wheel. It's centralized mass. It sounds good (subjective) and it is the simplest.

I have three issues with this quote.

1) "It's the most out of the way." - Um... no? It's larger than a comparable set of BoomTubes, meaning it's MORE in the way. It's more out of the way than, say, a stock exhaust or a direct aftermarket replacement (Zard, Arrow, Termi etc.). To say that it's the "most out of the way" is, frankly, bullshit.

2) "It's centralized mass." - Again, no. Comparing the options of Ex-Box - vs - BoomTubes: you've got a box that weighs more hanging farther off the back of the engine. Once again, it does a better job of "centralizing mass" than a stock exhaust or comparable system. But which is better? Having more mass closer to the back of the engine? Or having less mass hanging off the back of the engine and less mass overall?

3) "It is the simplest." - In what way? Horiz Pipe + Vert Pipe + Box + Baffles + Tips < Horiz Pipe + Vert Pipe + Crossover Pipe + Baffles + Tips?

ALL OF THAT BEING SAID!!!

My experience with BoomTubes on the DS1000 engine in my Sport 1000:

Mark is awesome, but it's gonna take you a while to get your Boom Tubes. They're gonna be everything you want them to be when you get them! But plan on having some delays. It's just a function of how they're made.

I (personally - this is "butt dyno," no real numbers) feel that the baffles in BoomTubes (should you ask for them) actually reduce top-end horsepower by a smidge. I have "medium-loud" baffles. The bike still has all kinds of grunt. That said, it gets a bit "winded" above about 6500-7000 rpm. It's nothing you're going to feel in "everyday" riding, but it's there.

I have the "staggered" tips, where the front one sticks out a lil further. That front tip is a bit ground down from taking hard right turns. Like "at the track" hard, not just "turned right at a stoplight" hard. So if you ride the bike in anger, be prepared to scuff the tip. Or have Mark adjust the length of the tubes/tips for you to avoid that problem.

Also: having "medium-loud" baffles, the bike is LOUD. I know immediately if I forgot to put in ear plugs. I can also tell if one of them isn't seated all the way.

Still: when I fire up the bike and hear the beautiful noise it makes? Yeah, I get a huge shit-eating grin. 

When I see a tunnel approaching and I downshift? Yup. Same smile. 

My vote: If you want sound and that last 1/10th of performance, get an Ex-Box.

If you want sound and the look of BoomTubes and are okay with sacrificing that last little fraction of power, then by all means get BoomTubes.

Listen to that guy, he's louder.

I also had this debate for about 2 seconds. Mark and I exchanged emails for a few weeks and got everything settled. I was never dissapointed with the decision. I loved my bike with the boometubes until the day I sold it. It just makes the bike just that much more unique and eye catching. Did we mention the sound? You just can't compare them for the joy they bring you. If you're willing to wait, they are well worth it.

Okay I saw this disclaimer on Motocreations BoomTubes Page

note: BoomTube exhausts are not DOT/EPA complaint. They are for "off highway use only".

What does this mean for me? I dont believe I am required to get my exhaust checked for my motorcycle like my car so unless I'm being all environmental do I care? Is the Ex-Box DOT/EPA compliant? Am I going to get slack from the State Highway cops or just tree huggers throwing stuff at me? I heard Boom Tubes get you a ticket in New York City what about Chicago?

One more thing has anyone heard if the EPA is going to start making Motorcycles get their emissions checked? If so what does that mean for people with Boom Tubes if and when that happens?

Absolutely nothing. That is just a legal disclaimer so that they don't go after Mark. I rode my bike on the highway in various states and the only look I got from LEO's was in appreciation, even when I got pulled over.

So how loud are boom tubes with the quiet baffles?

The reason I ask? A H-D Sportster with 1.75" drag pipes is so loud it makes me physically ill. I bought some cheap universal 8" long baffles and it put it back down into an acceptable range. I hate the sportster. Total wast of my money. I should have waited till I found the Monster I want...

Since I am leaning strongly towards Boom Tubes this is a good question. There appear to be 3 sound options. Loud, Regular and DB-Killers. I was thinking Regular which I assume will be much louder than stock or my current Remus Exhaust. Anyone have any insight on these 3 options? Anyone try the DB-Killers how loud is that compared to a stock or Remus/Termi exhaust? I figure the Loud will definitely be too loud for me and my suburban hood. I'm in the Soccer Mom crosshairs already.

Different stokes...I'm an ExBox guy:

Really... both are great choices otherwise this poll/debate would have no need to exist.