Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
You should start your own thread, as this one is about the new iPhone. 

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I'm sorry to poop on your Apple-analingus parade, I forget what a delicate flower you are.... ;-)

Quote from: ducatiz on October 18, 2011, 10:59:05 AM

you only did it recently. 

yes, but 4.x was available (again, free) for the iphone3g and 3gs well over a year ago...

the razr looks like a nice phone. i've seen conflicting information on whether it does/doesn't do lte. some spec sheets i've seen say it tops out at "just" hspa+ (like the iphone 4s).

it also won't come installed w/ android 4.x, instead shipping with 2.3.5, which brings me to another point. you assert that apple ios upgrade availability for specific hardware is at apple's whim. yet android upgrades are phone-specific and subject to being made available by the handset manufacturers or carriers. the 4.x update for the razr is reportedly targeted for 1q 2012.

Ah the old open environment vs walled garden debate.

if you want some more entertainment on this, pick up CNETs buzz out loud and go back a bit. Molly Wood gets very excited about the Thunderbolt then finds all sorts of issues with the OS fragmentation that's rife on the Android platform.

I deal with computer shit all day. When I was younger and had more time/energy something that was more open and I could f-with to my hearts-content was appealing. For many years I built my own computers from the case up.. and I still like to prod my computers.

But, a phone is a phone... I want it to work. I don't wish to worry about a kernel panic and bricking on a freaking phone because the cell service provider I have can't get their shit right. The android is a good platform, but there's too much control in the hands of folks who can't sort it out.

Yeah, the iphone is premium priced. Yeah, it tends to lag behind on the bleeding edge features that some of the other phones are sporting. But, mine's never given me issues, even when I poke, prod, jailbreak and open the case.

Oh and the app store isn't lousy with malware 

For me, it didn't make any sense at all to buy a smartphone until someone built one that could handle this, among other indignities:

Casio G'zOne Commando Smartphone

The OS, apps, etc. were secondary considerations, well behind durability, and Apple doesn't want or need that market.

Quote from: ducatiz on October 18, 2011, 09:08:54 PM
Plastic yes, but what about stainless steel?  7 mm thick...

It's 10mm total thickness btw.  The 7mm bit is a red herring. The majority of the body is 7mm thick, true true. But the camera sticks out the back like some optical wart. So total overall thickness, it's thicker than the 4 series of iPhones.

Looking at the abuse my phone case has taken, I prefer not to have an protrusions like the camera bumps. But there's android phones that meet that criteria

I got this: http://www.lifeproof.com/lifeproof-store/apple-cases/iphone-4
Works like a champ so far.
I'm not the 1st to post that case up here though

Quote from: derby on October 18, 2011, 08:37:16 PM
what are you using for your email accounts? exchange/imap/icloud? how many accounts?

what about your calendars?

push/fetch? how often? manual?

All of them are off.  I have two accounts but push is off.  I'll wait till weeks end but by 11 this morning it went from 100% to 63% with about 1 hour talk on 3G here in grand rapids where I'm traveling currently.

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus/4505-6452_7-35042961.html?tag=TOCcarouselMain.0

Quote from: muskrat on October 19, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
All of them are off.  I have two accounts but push is off.  I'll wait till weeks end but by 11 this morning it went from 100% to 63% with about 1 hour talk on 3G here in grand rapids where I'm traveling currently.

i've got 4 email accounts, all configured for exchange/push, and two calendars (icloud and google/caldav). i've gone from 100% to 85% in 8 hours with a 1.5hr support call to vmware on there.

you either got a bum battery, or there's some hidden battery-suck running on your phone.

Quote from: ducatiz on October 19, 2011, 03:53:24 AM
I'm sorry to poop on your Apple-analingus parade, I forget what a delicate flower you are.... ;-)

Who are you kidding, in between running multiple apps, if your phone had balls you'd be gargling them. 

Quote from: kopfjäger on October 19, 2011, 04:53:43 PM
Who are you kidding, in between running multiple apps, if your phone had balls you'd be gargling them. 

LOL

Have you used up the year supply of feminine products that came with your iPhone?

 . All except the Chig-Away.

Quote from: Sad Panda on October 19, 2011, 12:32:41 PM
Looking at the abuse my phone case has taken, I prefer not to have an protrusions like the camera bumps. But there's android phones that meet that criteria

I had the Droid X and now the Bionic, both with the Moto cam bump.  I thought it was very strange at first on the DX but quickly got used to it and liked it.  It gave me a good reference point when pulling it out of my pocket to know which end was up.

Wife has been bugging me to get an Iphone so we went out tonight and bought the new 4s + accessories.  What can I expect from this phone?  I know the iphone geeks are heartbroken that the 5 isn't out yet but we've never had iphones and don't use all those apps..

yet!

 
What are a few must haves?




awaits the smart azz camera remarks!