Everything happened so fast. With left leg was still tangled, maybe it was intended for the bike to naturally go down once it hit the grass, but probably wasnt expecting the bike to veer right so violently. Once the ass was on the footpegs, there was no controlling the bike.

Quote from: He Man on October 23, 2011, 06:24:32 PM
was there any reason why his dainese air bags never deployed?

I'm curious about that too

As much as I don't want to know how Rossi and Edwards are feeling right now, I do want to hear what their next step is

Quote from: lazylightnin717 on October 23, 2011, 06:58:38 PM
I'm curious about that too

We know for sure the bags didn't go off?

Not sure they would have done much to defend against severe head trauma.

Sad, freak accident....but Simo, more than anyone, would have insisted that the show go on.

It would be 'convenient' for Rossi to quit after this, if he wants an out, but I hope these guys are all too professional to fold the tent.  They all know why they wear gear...

Great photo by a friend of mine. Not sure which GP is was taken at...

Awesome picture

Quote from: fastwin on October 23, 2011, 06:25:15 PM
I too wonder that. Push it off and just slide.

It looked to me like initially (from Bautista's camera) he was just trying to save the lowside with his knee like those guys do fairly regularly. Something happened though, like the tires gripping unexpectedly, and he was whipped to the right. At that point I think he was just along for the ride. Weird crash.

Such a bummer.  

That picture of the crash is brutal.

That's the take I have gleaned. Front tire caught traction while crashing and flung he and the bike across the track in front of Edwards and Rossi. He hung on and into the path of Edwards and Rossi he went. They both hit him solid, maybe more so for Rossi. Either way, doesn't matter. Bad news either way you look at it.

Quote from: fastwin on October 23, 2011, 06:09:02 PM
Holy shit!! Can I have that click back?

Sorry about that, I'll go back and edit to strengthen the warning...

QuoteFrom that angle, as opposed to the youtube videos taken from behind, that photo depicts Rossi's bike doing the most damage. Am I seeing that right?

Yeah, I think so - it explains Rossi's body language immediately after the crash, and this expression:



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Hard part for Rossi is they were not only competitors, they were actually very good friends. Of all the people to hit him. I really feel for him. In the replay you can see it looks like Edwards tries to get up to go over to Marco but was in a lot of pain himself.

As for the crash the commentators reported that the impact had tore his helmet off. 

Aweful!     

I saw "RIP Marco" on a couple FB pages tonight and thought of Marco Melandri.  Wasn't even thinking until the crash happened that it was Marco Simoncelli.  My first thought..like a few others have already mentioned..Rossi will retire after this season.  Will we even see a Valencia race?  The champion has already been crowned.   

Ugh..just saw it again in slow motion.  He was gone instantly.  Very sad.   

I've chosen not to watch anything to do with the crash, but I have heard that that impact ripped off the helmet. Not sure at this point if he would have survived even with the helmet, but I wonder if they will go ahead and develop something more secure that would allow full head mobility, but secure fit.

Quote from: duccarlos on October 24, 2011, 05:34:14 AM
I've chosen not to watch anything to do with the crash, but I have heard that that impact ripped off the helmet. Not sure at this point if he would have survived even with the helmet, but I wonder if they will go ahead and develop something more secure that would allow full head mobility, but secure fit.

i'm not sure there is any kind of protection you could put on that would survive being hit by 2 motogp bikes at full tilt.  this accident just sems to be that 1% freak occurrence that you cant plan around.  racing's always dangerous, we just tend to forget that that 1% always exists.

I agree with the inherit danger of racing and, reading the descriptions, the chances of him surviving this specific crash even with his helmet on were slim. I just wonder if they can take this opportunity to develop a mechanism that would hold the helmet in place better during a crash. basically, right now the same strap that we used on a day to day ride is used to fasten a pro racing helmet. They have developed padding and shells, why not something to keep it on your head better?

Quote from: duccarlos on October 24, 2011, 07:03:20 AM
I agree with the inherit danger of racing and, reading the descriptions, the chances of him surviving this specific crash even with his helmet on were slim. I just wonder if they can take this opportunity to develop a mechanism that would hold the helmet in place better during a crash. basically, right now the same strap that we used on a day to day ride is used to fasten a pro racing helmet. They have developed padding and shells, why not something to keep it on your head better?

I agree like a clamping mechanism under the helmet.  I'm sure some people will develop something as it is clear the strap ripped in the videos.  But it was a freak accident the 1% chance happened in it.  That pic is so damn horrible and the way edwards and rossi reacted I can't imagine their pain.