personally i think there's a 100% chance that neither one of them will retire before the end of next year.  Valentino moreso than Colin.

just wondered who was Simo's helmet sponsor ? I know any helmet would do the same just curious .

This also reminds me  of Dale Earnhardt's crash it did not look that bad but the head impact , that crash changed that sport now they all have to have the hanns device .

I think you will see a change because of this

Quote from: ute on October 24, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
just wondered who was Simo's helmet sponsor ?

AGV

Quote from: ute on October 24, 2011, 04:53:15 PM

This also reminds me  of Dale Earnhardt's crash it did not look that bad but the head impact , that crash changed that sport now they all have to have the hanns device .

I think you will see a change because of this

I do not think they were similar.  I agree Dale's crash didn't look bad on the outside.  But the Sepang crash looked horrific even before contact was made.  If you read one of the links above, motogp says no changes could have prevented this.



mitt

Quote from: Chococat on October 24, 2011, 08:26:03 AM
Wow, how heartless of you to say something like this right now.    

RIP 58  

I didn't say anything that sports writers or TV pundits aren't typing right now for their own columns and that you'll be reading within a week, anyway.

Read my post in it's entire context...not heartless at all.  People do die in motorsports; it's a brutal sport with little room for error or forgiveness.  The riders all know that going in, but one can't be great at it without ignoring that reality.  Great leaps forward in safety/protection are usually preceded by accidents like this one.

Yes, it's sad that a 24-year old kid died, but he isn't the only twenty-something being buried this year.  Many of those starved to death or died of AIDS in third-world countries; some blew themselves and innocent people up in cars or with bombs strapped to their bodies for personal (possibly questionable) causes while others OD'd on heroin; and I knew a few who went away to war and never came back.

Get used to it.

Quote from: derby on October 24, 2011, 09:16:15 AM
true, but that's not the way the original comment reads (to me).

it reads more like "if rossi has been looking for an excuse to quit, now's a perfect time to say that it's because of marco."

Thank you, although I'll note that I believe Rossi's better than that.

Quote from: OT on October 24, 2011, 06:05:16 PM
I didn't say anything that sports writers or TV pundits aren't typing right now for their own columns and that you'll be reading within a week, anyway.

Read my post it it's entire context...not heartless at all.  People do die in motorsports; it's a brutal sport with little room for error or forgiveness.  The riders all know that going in, but one can't be great at it without ignoring that reality.  Great leaps forward in safety/protection are usually preceded by accidents like this one.

Yes, it's sad that a 24-year old kid died, but he isn't the only twenty-something being buried this year.  Many of those starved to death or died of AIDS in third-world countries; some blew themselves and innocent people up in cars or with bombs strapped to their bodies for personal (possibly questionable) causes while others OD'd on heroin; and I knew a few who went away to war and never came back.

Get used to it.

lil much doncha think?...at least for this topic/thread...

that having been said, these guys weild the fine razors edge of control like it was pencil and sometimes they just go a little too far beyond the limit and end up in situations we all don't wish to try and experience...whether it be from just a simple lowside at 100+ MPH...or being tossed 10+ feet in the air in a nasty highside and break some bone(s) as a result...or in this case, the passing of a great racer...and it isn't the 1st...and it may not be the last...last we all mourned as a group the passing of Peter Lenz...it is an unfortunate but very real reality of the sport/job that they do...this is the grisly but real utmost worst case scenario/result....

Quote from: ute on October 24, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
just wondered who was Simo's helmet sponsor ? I know any helmet would do the same just curious .

This also reminds me  of Dale Earnhardt's crash it did not look that bad but the head impact , that crash changed that sport now they all have to have the hanns device .

I think you will see a change because of this

Didn't Earnhart die because he wasn't wearing the Hanns (sic?) device; his neck snapped.

Quote from: zooom on October 24, 2011, 06:16:31 PM
lil much doncha think?...at least for this topic/thread...

Well, perhaps...guess I just reacted to being chastised by someone who needs to take a look around, which is what I was replying to.

Nuff said about this.

No shit people. Let the overstated be done. Damn... Get a grip folks. Let's focus on the loss and let the rest go. Again, RIP Marco.

Quote from: OT on October 24, 2011, 06:20:03 PM
Didn't Earnhart die because he wasn't wearing the Hanns (sic?) device; his neck snapped.

he wasn't wearing one, but the manufacturer has continually stopped short from saying it would've saved his life.

Quote from: OT on October 24, 2011, 06:05:16 PM
Yes, it's sad that a 24-year old kid died, but he isn't the only twenty-something being buried this year.  Many of those starved to death or died of AIDS in third-world countries; some blew themselves and innocent people up in cars or with bombs strapped to their bodies for personal (possibly questionable) causes while others OD'd on heroin; and I knew a few who went away to war and never came back.

Get used to it.

Quote from: zarn02 on October 24, 2011, 07:05:39 PM

qft.

i was wondering if one of those leatt neck braces would have helped at first, but after seeing more pics of the incident, i doubt it.

and i'm glad that rossi and edwards are staying in the game.  motogp would have been really hard to watch without the character they bring to the sport.

Quote from: mitt on October 24, 2011, 05:29:51 PM
I do not think they were similar.  I agree Dale's crash didn't look bad on the outside.  But the Sepang crash looked horrific even before contact was made.

+1

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