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Hello all Ducati fanatics, i am new

Started by MrNice, October 26, 2011, 01:07:24 PM

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MrNice

 Hello

My name is Lazar, i am form Serbia, city Belgrade. For now i never had bike, but i plan to buy Ducati Monster. Is this good decision, can totaly beginer drive Ducati Monster 696? And which Ducati you suggest me to buy for my level?
When i was child i hera and see ducati and fail in love with them, and now when i am older i want advice from expiriance Ducati drivers, I am 22 years old. [beer]

stopintime

We're not fanatics  >:( we're just.... eh .. we're

ok - we're fanatics [Dolph]


Buying a Monster as a first bike is not a smart decision, but most of us aren't letting 'smart' control us 100%.
This is about feelings - if you want a Monster, get one.

If it turns out that you hate it more than you love it - sell it.
Just be careful - we want you to survive!

Welcome [thumbsup]
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MrNice

#2
Thank you, man

Me too also want to survive, because i asking about advice [beer]
We are all fanatics [bow_down], because love Ducati. I am admirer for Ducati bikes [thumbsup], but i want to know how much is secure ducati monster for beginners? And which Ducati you sugest me for first bike. i would like to but one monster, but if isnt safe i will make decision to buy or no. I first plan to go to moto school and learn somehng about bikes. What moster have for safe drive?

stopintime

School is a smart decision. Learn all you can as soon as you can.

The most powerful Monsters will be too much for a beginner, I think.

It's easy to ride a bike, but it's difficult to ride a bike and relate to traffic at the same time.

620, 695, 696 Monsters are faster than most sports cars, but they will be a little bit more forgiving when you make your small mistakes.

If you have traffic skills, you'll most probably survive the critical first years.
If you don't have traffic skills, learn them in a car or on a scooter/small bike before you get on a Monster.
I've been your age, so I understand if you disregard my advice ;)
Have reasonable respect for the dangers (sounds like you do) and you'll be fine.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MrNice

 I dont have traffic expirance.

Which Ducti you suggest me, o first one.


I planing to but Ducat in about 1-2 years, becaue right now i donthave money and expirance, but i want to see what true Ducati drivers suggest me to do?

And if its good for beggines to start collecting money and star reading bikes books. Can you tell me good books for begginers for free?

I dont want to buy some other bike, bucause the only bike in the world for me [Dolph] is Ducati

bikepilot

#5
I am not sure what models are available in your country or if your license will be limited so am not sure what to recommend.  If you were in the states I'd recommend a Monster 620 as it quick, but still quite user friendly. Also very fuel efficient.  The 696 would work just fine as well.

The 2-valve, air cooled monsters, especially the 6xx series, are pretty easy to ride and beginner-friendly.  As long as you are reasonably careful and get some training/lessons in riding you should be just fine on one. 

I had the good fortune to grow up racing off road and was on liter superbikes by the time I was 21  [evil]

My very first road going bike was a 1985 honda VF500 which is about the same as a Monster 620 in terms of power, but does not handle as well.

Starting with a sensible bike is wise and  I would consider the smaller monsters sensible. 

Riding anything with two wheels will be a big help, bicycle, scooter, moped, small motorcycle etc. and will do you more good than reading books. 

Books aren't bad though.  You might look for books by Lee Parks and Keith Code as they are well respected.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

MrNice

Thank you

I dont want to but scooter or other bike first, because need more time and money, and i dont have, especialy money. You sugest me Monster 620 or 696?

Have someone to ride Moster 620 or 696 without any expiriance before?

And if have, i would like to hear how is it, is it hard and too much dangerously?

If i but monster, i dont want to drive too fast, i want to enjoy ride and drive normaly, not too fast and not too slow [beer].

I know taht my questions are stupid and difficult, and sorry about that! [bang]

I only want to collect inforamtion, to know waht to do.

stopintime

620 is a good beginners bike and shouldn't be very expensive.

Traffic experience is the most important thing to keep you safe.
If you have that, you can ride a bike without too much danger.
Being somewhat safe in traffic is a long process though. It will take years to get even close,
but the one thing you have that will get you there sooner is your attitude - you sound sensible and aware that you're not bulletproof. Being aware of the need for education and willingness to learn is going to help you a lot.

You are welcome to ask questions - there are no stupid questions!
'Riding techniques' on this forum can provide some insight into what we're dealing with on a daily basis.
You won't understand all of it at first, but it's usually possible to learn something.

If you have a Ducati club or dealer close to you, they might also be willing to help you.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MrNice

#8
OK, Thank you very very much all of You

You are totaly right, i reading "riding techniques" but dont understand most of it [bang].

But i will read again and again and try to understand.

I need to go in USA to work on Cruise Ship, and when i finish my contract and collect money, i am planing to go in moto school in USA. Is it good idea?

I have big desire to buy one Ducati i learn to drive safetly

Thank you!!! [thumbsup]  [beer]


MrNice

How much is prize for Ducati Monster 620 in good condition?

And can 620 have ABS, or Ducati Traction Control or something for safe drive for beginners?

bikepilot

A nice 620 is about $4-5k in the states.  You can find ones with a lot of miles or that are a bit beat up for less. Pricing can vary tremendously from one country to another though so this won't do you much good unless you plan to buy the bike in the states. 

No traction control or ABS on the 620, you might be able to get ABS on the 696.  Traction control really isn't needed as the bike doesn't make enough power to spin up the rear wheel and there's something to be said for learning to ride the bike rather than learning to sit on it while the computer does all the work [Dolph]

ABS is helpful, especially for a new rider, but no reason you can't learn without it.  I've never had an ABS bike and I've done about 150k miles on-road and loads off road.

Buying a cheap, small bike isn't a bad idea though and they hold their value so you could get a little scooter or small bike, ride it around and re-sell it and not loose much money.

In the states there are basic riding courses which are as you'd guess very basic.  they teach you how to ride around a parking lot without killing yourself and not much more.  then there are "advanced" rider courses which teach the basics of road riding.  Beyond that there are track day schools and other specialized schools which teach you how to really control the bike.  Lee Park's total control and American Supercamp are good ones as are the many track schools such as Keith Code's stuff, Kevin Schwanrtz' classes, etc.

In the end riding is all about the rider, don't get too hung up focusing on the bike.  A good rider will have a great time on most anything and will be more capable than a bad rider on most anything. 
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)