Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 26, 2011, 07:33:06 PM
The front had regained traction as the back slid around more and the bike started to come back upright and the rear gained traction back literally shooting the bike in the other direction. A perfect storm scenario that was a billion shot. Incredibly unlikely any of us will see a similar crash in our lifetimes and for that alone I am thankful.

I thought some of the early articles said a rider in moto2 died last season in a similar accident?

mitt

Shoya Tomizawa ran wide onto the astroturf at the exit of Turn 11 at Misano.

He did lose the front, then the rear came around and the front regained a bit of grip as it was back on track.

More a case of falling directly on the racing line, rather than swinging back onto the line.

Quote from: derby on October 26, 2011, 05:50:20 PM
either the rear end slid around or the front end regained traction while he was holding on/fighting to save the lowside and he ended up pointing back across the track.

There's a helicopter shot which I saw once but haven't been able to find again (I'm guessing Dorna are playing whack-a-mole with copyright takedowns on every popular video sharing site) which make it look like he lost the front, and the back came round while he was sliding along holding it up on his knee and elbow - and when he finally got it to hook back up he was pointed straight across the track...

big

Without seeing any video specifically of Super Sic's crash that explanation makes some sense. I have been wondering all along how the hell do you loose the front and low side on a big right hand sweeper and slide back to the inside across the path of CE and Vale? Mother Nature and physics takes you outside to the left and onto the grassy runoff area. Safe and sound. Freak accident to be sure.

started to lose the front, was fighting it with knee and elbow, got it righted slightly, front suddenly regained traction, bam -- bike took a violent right turn, literally dragging him across the racing line.  with his back facing oncoming 90mph traffic since he was still hanging off the right side of the bike, unable to move.

this is why his father talked about what a warrior marco was and the fact that if he weren't, if he had just let the bike go, he'd be alive today.

http://motomatters.com/news/2011/10/27/thousands_pay_final_respects_to_marco_si.html

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/latest+videos#Marco+Simoncellis+Funeral

http://www.youtube.com/user/regolios#p/u/7/6A_KagvvqiQ

I refuse to watch the crash video ever again but the combination of explanations fit it all together.


I watched his funeral and I don't know if it is because of my love for the sport of motorcycle racing and who he was as a person or that I had met him if only for a brief 2 or 3 minute conversation at Indy in 2009 and could actually identify with who this person was that passed away but the funeral, the tributes, all of it has had me choked up more than a few times.

I was really looking forward to having Sic, Iannone, and Rossi all together on the same track...definitely my favorite 3 riders out there.

Rest easy, Marco. Save some slicks for the rest of us up there.

Sorry, that motogp.com video of the funeral just did me in. Monstrous loss to the sport and to the world. Again, thoughts and payers to Marco's family, friends and girlfriend. It's a loss to us all. 

Who was the guy at 4:29 on the motogp.com funeral video?



mitt

Quote from: mitt on October 27, 2011, 08:55:18 PM
Who was the guy at 4:29 on the motogp.com funeral video?



mitt

Fausto Gresini

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/174403/1/marco_simoncelli_1987-2011.html

Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 27, 2011, 03:24:44 PM
I refuse to watch the crash video ever again but the combination of explanations fit it all together.

Same here.  I saw some of the still frame shots of the crash when I was looking through news updates, and that was a bit too much.  Seeing the wreck on the broadcast has been burned into my mind's eye, and that's bad enough.  I just keeps replaying in my head.  I was going to go for a ride on Sunday afternoon (probably the last time I could have weather-wise) but I didn't.  My mind wasn't with it.

I've never been this mournful over a death in professional sports.  Like everyone is saying here, it's like I lost a close friend.  Seeing the respect he got at his viewing and funeral just goes to show loved he was(is).  I'm glad I saw him race at Indy this year.

What a rider.  What a human being.  What a loss.

Ciao Marco.

Quote from: GLantern on October 24, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
I agree like a clamping mechanism under the helmet.  I'm sure some people will develop something as it is clear the strap ripped in the videos.  But it was a freak accident the 1% chance happened in it.  That pic is so damn horrible and the way edwards and rossi reacted I can't imagine their pain.

I know a few helmet companies had been working on better methods, but none were deemed safe as they don't allow for quick emergency removal when needed.

I don't think there was any way it could have gone different once he popped across that corner. Even had the helmet stayed on, 2 gp bikes to the back and head

MotoGP.com's latest Rewind is a tribute to Marco...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2011/MotoGP+Rewind+Marco+Simoncelli

As is the latest After the Flag...

http://www.motogp.com/en/After+the+Flag

Both are open videos to everyone.

Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 28, 2011, 01:42:53 PM
MotoGP.com's latest Rewind is a tribute to Marco...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2011/MotoGP+Rewind+Marco+Simoncelli

As is the latest After the Flag...

http://www.motogp.com/en/After+the+Flag

Both are open videos to everyone.