ST3 engine in a Monster frame?

Travman · October 28, 2011, 08:37:01 PM

I test rode an ST3 today and it got me thinking about the possibility of of stuffing a ST3 engine into a Monster frame and using one of those smaller Pace radiators. Has anybody ever done this before? Any pictures of the results?

muskrat · October 28, 2011, 09:14:55 PM

smaller radiators from pace?

zarn02 · October 28, 2011, 09:15:18 PM

I can't remember hearing about anybody doing that particular swap, but it can't be that hard.¹

¹Assuming you want to spend a considerable amount of time and money.

The Don · October 28, 2011, 11:28:01 PM

I thought that th ST and monster frame were one and the same, no?

zarn02 · October 28, 2011, 11:46:56 PM

Quote from: The Don on October 28, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
I thought that th ST and monster frame were one and the same, no?

Early Monster frames (Uhm... '02 and prior, or thereabouts?) were based on the 888 frame.

Later Monster frames were based on the ST.

Raux · October 29, 2011, 12:41:53 AM

Does the ST3 use the SBK type throttle bodies? That would be the only issue I see. That and the mounts for the radiators.

monstermick58 · October 29, 2011, 02:49:38 AM

Hey Travman,

Would it be easier to put Monster bodywork on the ST3.

Thats if you want it to be easier.

Mmick

Raux · October 29, 2011, 03:50:02 AM

Quote from: monstermick58 on October 29, 2011, 02:49:38 AM
Hey Travman,

Would it be easier to put Monster bodywork on the ST3.

Thats if you want it to be easier.
Mmick

would be as hard as turning a sbk into a monster. lots of parts relocations

Travman · October 29, 2011, 04:24:35 AM

Quote from: muskrat on October 28, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
smaller radiators from pace?

I don't know much about them. There was a thread about them a while back. Basically they are more narrow and more aestically pleasing than stock radiators .

Travman · October 29, 2011, 04:46:18 AM

Quote from: The Don on October 28, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
I thought that the ST and monster frame were one and the same, no?

Yes, like Zarn02 said. The only differences I know about is the extra frame rails in the tail section for extra passenger support for the ST's. Also, the ST frames will have tabs for mounting all the extra stuff. The mounting of the engine to the frame and the swingarm to the engine are the same.

I was thinking of a 2002+ frame, but I don't see why an earlier version frame wouldn't work.

Travman · October 29, 2011, 04:56:42 AM

Quote from: Raux on October 29, 2011, 12:41:53 AM
Does the ST3 use the SBK type throttle bodies? That would be the only issue I see. That and the mounts for the radiators.

Not sure about the SBK type throttle bodies, but that is the kind of stuff I was wondering about. I'm thinking the induction, ECU, and gauges would be the biggest obstacles. Then mounting and minimizing a radiator and coolant expansion container.

DRKWNG · October 29, 2011, 07:29:13 AM

I'd love to do something like that to my SC. I think the extra scoot would really make that bike move right along, especially after an over-bore and high comps.

1KDS · October 29, 2011, 03:14:29 PM

The ST motors are Monster width. That's one hurdle already jumped.

Travman · October 29, 2011, 04:16:34 PM

It is not a bad looking engine. Pretty much just like the 1000 DS without the cooling fins.

DRKWNG · October 29, 2011, 04:24:41 PM

Shame about the wet clutch though...

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