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[Clickjack]

appreciate the input everyone.  This has dried up and died, though.  I wasn't trying to start a fight...

already took care of the Bikini faring, and He Man provided a detailed example of how to replace the pressure plate.  My point was never anything to do with the actual list.  My point is, that if you are going to be doing Mod's to your bike, even simple stuff, and your the type of guy/girl who knows what they are doing.  Make a video or take detailed pics and post them.  It is a great help to some of us, no matter how easy it is to you.   I just provided the list, as those are simple mods that I bet get over looked, and they are all stuff I'm trying to figure out how to do...

[He Man]

this goes back to someguys post before about the mechanically "disabled"

Removing the bikini fairing Have you tried taking a look at it? theres only 4 bolts...(10second video)
Installing risers again, theres only 2 bolts  on each riser.. (2 second video)
Installing a dampervaries from model to model, and they come with their own instructions
changing out the brake and clutch levers/cylindersThere already is one in the FAQ, not a video but still..(1minute video)
Adding a billet or open face cover and changing out the pressure plate on the clutch Theres only 5 bolts and the pressure plate is covered in numerous threads, this one is a bit tricky if you have no idea (especially with rizoma stuff), so hell, im going to reinstall mine right now so i guess ill throw it up.

in all seriousness, if words and photographs cant help you understand any of those simple mods, you really should think twice about doing your own work.


p.s. you dont need to post it in 3 different parts of the forum... Well ive found 3. there may be more Easter eggs....

[Clickjack]

this goes back to someguys post before about the mechanically "disabled"

Removing the bikini fairing Have you tried taking a look at it? theres only 4 bolts...(10second video)

Yes, and It looks easy enough, as soon as I find the right tools... plus there are guys griping about it being a pain in the ass.  So it seems like someone who can do it in 10 seconds, should show us how.

I know this stuff is super simple to alot of you guys.   all I'm saying is, that if you are going to be doing it anyway.  Make a video, or take detailed Photos (I haven't see this, but you say it exist).   

I'm confident that I can do any of this stuff w/guidance.  I prefer to see examples and know exactly what I'm doing before I run at my brand new bike with a set of wrenches and very little experience.

And 1 min, 30 sec. clips sound great.  I don't see why that should be a deterrent.

[He Man]

Yes, and It looks easy enough, as soon as I find the right tools... plus there are guys griping about it being a pain in the ass.  So it seems like someone who can do it in 10 seconds, should show us how.

It really is as easy as it looks. Now do you mean you need to go buy tools? or do you not know what tools to use?

[jdubbs32584]

I agree with you ClickJack. I think it would be nice too. Especially for those of us that want to learn but need a little more guidance than just words on a screen.

[Clickjack]

It really is as easy as it looks. Now do you mean you need to go buy tools? or do you not know what tools to use?

I don't own any metric tools. 

[Clickjack]

I agree with you ClickJack. I think it would be nice too. Especially for those of us that want to learn but need a little more guidance than just words on a screen.

Exactly.  Even the easy stuff can be overwhelming when your on your own.

[He Man]

I agree with you ClickJack. I think it would be nice too. Especially for those of us that want to learn but need a little more guidance than just words on a screen.

Damn it JBubble, why do you have to get in between me busting a newbie. I was having fun.

Anyway, this is a VERY VERY good explination of how to install a new pressure plate.  If all those nice pics dont help, then a video wouldnt help either. IE ive seen CA-Cyclework's video on how to do valve adjustments. Honest to god. I have no clue what he was talking about. I read the Haynes tech guide and it helped a bit, and i just said watever opened the valve covers and just played around with it, then i finally understood it. Still not sure about TDC and all those belt marks, which cylinder is in TDC when and why. People explaining it to me, and videos dont help. You just need to sit down, and play with it.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11240.0


Anyway thats the link. Is that detailed enough? Cause i aint making a video (Dont know how to encode for web, and youtube really dumbs the quality down to the point where its pointless. I have an HD Video camera if someone wants to host.

[jdubbs32584]

Damn it JBubble, why do you have to get in between me busting a newbie. I was having fun.

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I just happen to be in the same situation as him. I don't have anyone to help me where I'm located and I don't know a socket wrench from a crescent wrench. I am, however, willing and eager to learn. You guys on here are my resource. When you're a complete newb to tools and bikes, it can be VERY confusing and intimidating.

For any major wrenching, I will definitely go to the dealer or a qualified person. For things like taking my windscreen off and changing a sprocket, I wanna do those myself. Pics/video make it easier for us dumbos to visualize how to do the simple things.

Bear with us dear. At least we're trying to learn. 

Oh, and I'm glad you got your bike back finally. That is awesome news. 

[Popeye the Sailor]

IE ive seen CA-Cyclework's video on how to do valve adjustments. Honest to god. I have no clue what he was talking about. I read the Haynes tech guide and it helped a bit, and i just said watever opened the valve covers and just played around with it, then i finally understood it. Still not sure about TDC and all those belt marks, which cylinder is in TDC when and why. People explaining it to me, and videos dont help. You just need to sit down, and play with it.

No, YOU just need to sit down and play with it. Because the video on valve adjustments did *you* no good. Not everyone learns the same way. With other people, video and pictures is what they need, whereas playing with it just makes them confused, or they screw something up.


In other news, giving people (especially newbs) crap for not knowing something they have no good reason to *already* know, is just not helpful.

[He Man]

My point is, there is no difference between a video and a pictorial.

Example:
If i took a picture and pointed at the risers and typed REMOVE. Wouldnt that translate the same idea as making a video of me looking for the right sized Allen key, using it correctly because some people don't realize why it is L shaped, turning it until it is loose and repeating it twice, and then putting on a new riser, and fastening the bolt.


For most people who want to do their own work, it usually comes down to two things:
Fear vs understanding. Fear of screwing up, is common among people who have never worked on their bike. If they have the common sense to take a look around, and make a rational decision, then they are already ahead of the game. Most people who do this go, "hey if i loosen this bolt right here, this object will loosen up. it is connected to nothing, so only that will come of, but I am afraid to do it..." That issue will only be solved by getting your feet wet. Its like school, the teacher can explain something to you a million times, but no matter what, you will not get it 100% until you finally do it, you can argue however you want, but humans learn through the motions of doing something.

"I dont understand how to remove these riser, what are those shiny hexagon shapes inside the risers? Do I need to get them out?" = not understanding. People who are like that, should just not touch their own bike.

The OP = fear....

Yes, and It looks easy enough, as soon as I find the right tools... plus there are guys griping about it being a pain in the ass.

Everyone is telling him its a hard to remove the bikini fairing. Im telling him its easy, just stop asking for videos and just do it.

My final point? A little faith in yourself goes a long way and if everyone makes it sound harder than it is, whats wrong with me telling him, it isn't as hard as everyone else is saying. it really is as easy as YOU see it to be. Now just go buy some freaking metric tools and start wrenching.

[Clickjack]

No one said it was really hard.  Just a pain in the ass.  I'm not the least bit worried about that one...
I'm just saying if you can do it in 10 seconds... bestow your almighty wisdom.

[Old-Duckman]

I agree more with someguy than He Man but I can see both points (my curse).

We do learn by doing and making a mistake while doing so is the best lesson one can learn...but it can hurt to learn a lesson that way.

Personal experience:

I have been wrenching since I was a wee one. So, many of my lessons I learned early on but as long as you are still "doin' stuff" you'll still learn some hard lessons. You surely get satisfation doing the work yourself and, if you know what you are doing, you know that what you did was done right. I'd rather mess it up myself than to pay somone to mess it up.

Anything is easy if you know how to do it...The opposite it true too. If you don't know how to do something, there is some level of difficulity to the task.

Personality type enters in too, as others have eluded to. I have taught adults jewelry making and metalsmithing for about 15 years. There are those who are ready to jump right in...mistakes be dammed! There are also those trepidious types that fear that they are going to make a mess of their project. So as somone else pointed out, fear is a big issue.

At some point with or without visual aids...you will have to jump in and do it. That said, start with simple things to build your confidence. Tire pressure, visual bike safety inspection (with book in hand if you need it). Graduate to an oil change or chain adjustment. Get a manual, get it dirty and learn...no better way IMO. If you find a video (such as Steves) by all means watch it before you attempt the task. I personally would not waste my time making, editing and posting a video of removing the bikini fairing but perhaps someone would.  I don't think it is wrong to ask for that but...I ain't gonn do it.

Good luck, get dirty and learn about that scooter!

[Clickjack]

appreciate the input everyone.  This has dried up and died, though.  I wasn't trying to start a fight...

already took care of the Bikini faring, and He Man provided a detailed example of how to replace the pressure plate.  My point was never anything to do with the actual list.  My point is, that if you are going to be doing Mod's to your bike, even simple stuff, and your the type of guy/girl who knows what they are doing.  Make a video or take detailed pics and post them.  It is a great help to some of us, no matter how easy it is to you.   I just provided the list, as those are simple mods that I bet get over looked, and they are all stuff I'm trying to figure out how to do...

[jdubbs32584]

appreciate the input everyone.  This has dried up and died, though.  I wasn't trying to start a fight...

already took care of the Bikini faring, and He Man provided a detailed example of how to replace the pressure plate.  My point was never anything to do with the actual list.  My point is, that if you are going to be doing Mod's to your bike, even simple stuff, and your the type of guy/girl who knows what they are doing.  Make a video or take detailed pics and post them.  It is a great help to some of us, no matter how easy it is to you.   I just provided the list, as those are simple mods that I bet get over looked, and they are all stuff I'm trying to figure out how to do...

+11tyb. Thank you for asking for this and I'm sorry you took heat for it. It would be nice for those of us that wanna learn to have some pics but we'll have to hope that some people are willing to help us out with those.