EDIT: ITS WORSE!!! Major problem- need advice- WARNING: LONG

[paradisecity]

So before you go through months of legal action and additional cost to yourself what would be the harm of taking your receipts to this guys shop, along with cash for the 10hrs verbal labor agreement you made, and talking to him face to face? You could get answers about the cost% Comboy listed before hand. I believe he's right and that's good advice. If the guy refuses you then you can go the legal route. This solution could cost you no more than a phone call to your local better business bureau and a few hundred dollars.

Well I offered the guy cash for 20 hours of labor and he said that it wouldnt begin to cover it, so me think 10 hours arent going to do.  That is why I am waiting for an estimate from a 3rd party, and also waiting for his work invoice.

[derby]

Well I offered the guy cash for 20 hours of labor and he said that it wouldnt begin to cover it, so me think 10 hours arent going to do.  That is why I am waiting for an estimate from a 3rd party, and also waiting for his work invoice.

quit shooting yourself in the foot by offering him more money and call an attorney.

[paradisecity]

quit shooting yourself in the foot by offering him more money and call an attorney.

I will be after the estimate comes back and I present it and am refused.  At this point I am building a case formyself by offering a fair offer and going out of my way to attempt to resolve the situation.  My efforts will be rewarded should, god forbid, legal action be necessary.

Remember, lawyers cost money too.  The threat of legal action is often more cost effective than the action itself.

[Count Desmo]

I will be after the estimate comes back and I present it and am refused.  At this point I am building a case formyself by offering a fair offer and going out of my way to attempt to resolve the situation.  My efforts will be rewarded should, god forbid, legal action be necessary.

Remember, lawyers cost money too.  The threat of legal action is often more cost effective than the action itself.

Can you prove you offered him 20hrs/labor in cash?

[GLantern]

This is absolutely crazy man your bike does look sweet though hope it all works out!!

[paradisecity]

anybody know how to attach a pdf to this so you guys can see this piece of B.S.?

[derby]

anybody know how to attach a pdf to this so you guys can see this piece of B.S.?

you'll have to upload it somewhere (like sendspace).

[mitt]

You can use a screen capture program, or print screen, then make it a jpg, and upload it to a flickr account or other image hosting site.

mitt

[jdubbs32584]

anybody know how to attach a pdf to this so you guys can see this piece of B.S.?

I have a screen capture program. If you need to, send it to me and I'll take a pic and post it.

[paradisecity]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f58plz

Looks like that worked.

Note that he specifically told me that he could get the set of tires for 300 because I told him that I could get them for that price.  He guaranteed the exhaust work at 250, and all prepping and painting was already supposed to be "covered"

He charged me 250 dollars for "cleaning" because i told him that his shop was so dirty that my bike was getting disgusting and needed to be cleaned.

He charged me 100 bucks to package my forks to be shipped ( I wanted to ship them myself) and another 45 for postage (he wsaid he would eat that charge months ago because he wasted two weeks not sending them out and we needed them to build the bike).  Another 100 bucks for "shop supplies" even though they are already detailed out and 40 for "hazmat?"  (maybe that one is real I dont know).

Apparently, attaching a rear master cylinder takes 3.25 hours.

I could go on and on. 

Also note that he now decided that the deal for parts for 11 hours of labor that we made  5 MONTHS ago, he decided he is no longer honoring it.  We had a 30 minute conversation on the phone that got heated a little bit ago, where he said "i was wrong" (referring to himself)  when he said I was covered up to the point of the engine being painted and only needing another 6-8 hours.  Apparently he thinks I should pay for that.

And lastly, or course, id the note up top.

[paradisecity]

ooooh every time i look i see a new one- "evaluate exhaust" 162.50 

[derby]

Also note that he now decided that the deal for parts for 11 hours of labor that we made  5 MONTHS ago, he decided he is no longer honoring it.  We had a 30 minute conversation on the phone that got heated a little bit ago, where he said "i was wrong" (referring to himself)  when he said I was covered up to the point of the engine being painted and only needing another 6-8 hours.  Apparently he thinks I should pay for that.

And lastly, or course, id the note up top.

again, i hope you recorded that.

[derby]

monster 695 does not have:

a speedo gear assembly - save 1.25 hours
a carburettor - save 1.25 hours

$250 for powdercoating and $82.50 in travel time?

2 hour customer consultation? he's billing you for talking now?

i'm too lazy to go over this list, but a lot of this labor overlaps. he's make the beast with two backsin' ya pretty good here.

CALL AN ATTORNEY!!!

[mitt]

At least it says 'thank you for your business'

You should trade him bike work for html work, his website sux.

A couple quotes from it...

"People want to know the story behind a business. On this page we will detail our company history and describe what makes us the best service company in the area. Please remember that the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

Our Service

We are dedicated to serving our customer's needs, and our goal is 100% customer satisfaction. We strive to bring you the best in quality service, and if something isn't right, please let us know."

And my favorite...


"There isn't a bike that I can't fix...how long it'll take is a different question." 


You are going to need to figure out best case and worst case, and settle.

Maybe his bill is high, but probably not $3000 too high.  What is a realistic bill for that work, I don't know.  I do know what I have paid for labor at my shop, and for something realitively simple, it can get to $1000 pretty quick.  I imagine if my dealer did all of what you had done, it would be in the $4k range.  Can you hire an attorney and still pay a reasonable bill for less than the current bill - I don't know.

mitt

[paradisecity]

Well, he has my old forks, my old rear wheel, my old rear brake, my old front brakes, and my old front wheel that I supposedly traded for 11 hrs of labor at 65.00/hr, so if he doesnt actually go back on our deal thats another 715 off the bill.