EDIT: ITS WORSE!!! Major problem- need advice- WARNING: LONG

[Duc L'Smart]

WoW, has this gone on tooo long, or what
Discussion & civility have long since died....

Get your bike back.

Go from there.

[somegirl]

Reading this thread makes me feel like I am reading about an abused wife who keeps going back to her husband instead of the battered women's shelter.

[Pancake81]

PLease get your bike back so we can stop this insanity!!! I really want to see some pics of your bike in YOUR deiveway. Finished or make the beast with two backsing not (pardon my french). But this really chaps my ass.

Heath

[bigtime]

I'm rooting for the mechanic, it's obvious that paradisecity has mental problems.

[Bun-bun]

I'm rooting for the mechanic, it's obvious that paradisecity has mental problems.

Cruel, man, cruel.

     Look, some people are just too nice. There is nothing you can do to change that.

Some folks are a-holes, and some are creampuffs. A-holes get screamed at, creampuffs get walked on.

IMO - P-city is a creampuff.

One day, his balls may drop. until then, all of your screaming at him is not going to do anything but waste your time and his.

[Drunken Monkey]

<mod hat>
Not cool, guys. If you can't find a way to be civil about this, don't post.
</mod hat>

[Duck-Stew]

My official response:

I just spent 30 minutes talking w/the shop that ParadiseCity took his 695 to and here's what I think:

The errors here can be split just-about equally between these two areas:

1)  The shops' unfamiliar billing system and the shops' unfamiliarity with Ducati Monsters

*AND*

2)  ParadiseCity's lack of concept of how much time some of the custom things he's requested actually take.

I am not taking anyone's side in this matter, I'm a 3rd party observer providing my opinion of the situation and an estimate of what work was presented to me (there were items worked on that ParadiseCity failed to mention to me).  I believe the shop will adjust the bill more favorably to ParadiseCity, but I also think that there is some misconceptions on ParadiseCity's part as to the time needed to perform some tasks.

I won't be weighing in on this situation anymore.
[gets off witness stand]
--Stu

[Bun-bun]

<mod hat>
Not cool, guys. If you can't find a way to be civil about this, don't post.
</mod hat>

Listen, I apologize if I stepped over the line.

My point is that P-city is being entirely TOO civil about this. My comment was an attempt to get him to WAKE UP!!
His ultracivility and creampuffery could get him killed by leading him to accept a bike that may be unsafe.

When it comes to things like this, you have to be firm in order to ensure(as much as possible) your safety.

Personally, I wish him luck, and hope he ends up with a safe bike at a reasonable cost.

[paradisecity]

Guys- lets get one thing straight.

I'm not a creampuff.  I'm calculating.  I'm waiting until I have enough information to make the proper decision that saves me money and doesn't put me in a bad legal situation.  I have only spoken to one lawyer for a few minutes and am waiting for two others who specialize in this to call me back.  I dont want to make a payment and take the bike back because that might mean I am admitting to the bill.  I dont know.  I also know that if I show up  with 5 people and try to take my bike 1) it could get messy and 2) it could leave me in a very poor legal situation later.  I am not going to harm my position in this situation any further until I have the proper information as to the options for a course of action.

[Bun-bun]

P-city, I'm not suggesting you strongarm the guy, and I know that this thread has only been up for a few days, and there's only so much time in a day.

That said, I have 2 observations, then I'll quit.
1) You're all worried about the legal situation, I'd be just as worried about the level of craftsmanship performed on the bike,or lack of it, and how that relates to the safety of the rider.

2) Waitng for lawyers to call you back is like waiting for the second coming. Lots of people do it, and no ones heard from anybody yet.


Good luck, man.

[derby]

2) Waitng for lawyers to call you back is like waiting for the second coming. Lots of people do it, and no ones heard from anybody yet.

THIS is the funniest shit i've heard all day. 

[hbliam]

http://wserver0.prepaidlegal.com/newCorp2/legal_plans/legal_plans.html

[DY]

http://wserver0.prepaidlegal.com/newCorp2/legal_plans/legal_plans.html

sounds kinda shady.  Pay before hand, and your'e not even guaranteed quality service in the future?  Actually, kinda sounds like the situation here!

[hbliam]

sounds kinda shady.  Pay before hand, and your'e not even guaranteed quality service in the future?  Actually, kinda sounds like the situation here!

It was kind of a joke.

That being said, it's not shady, they have been around for decades.

[silentbob]

It was kind of a joke.

That being said, it's not shady, they have been around for decades.

So has ScamWay.  I mean AmWay.