EDIT: ITS WORSE!!! Major problem- need advice- WARNING: LONG

[jclin]

Hrmm. I looked back at this thread and saw TWO pages that are new, and I'm thinking "Cool, paradisecity must have got his bike and there's now two pages of pictures!" Boy was I wrong. 

Someone tell me when there's more to this drama.... 

[Desmo Demon]

To me, even an ST or a Multi is just a bike. But 9*6/998/748 or Monster really isn't for selling.

Continued threadjacking....

Interestingly, I bought my ST2 because it was a heck of a deal. I didn't want an ST and I surely didn't like the color, but I bought the new one at a price that was less than what used ones were going for. I figured I could ride it a couple of years and resell it at no loss........until I found out I REALLY like the bike. Of all the motorcycles I have, the ST will probably be the last one I ever sell. It does everything really well. I can drag a knee in the twisties and do a SaddleSore 1000 without any modifications.

I pointed out that I am older, have been modifying bikes for a very long time, and continue to do so because it is worth it to me.    I didn't buy his argument that modifying a bike doesn't have value (it's simply not true in my case), and I pointed out that the value - for some people, for other people besides him, for me - comes in the use of the bike, not from dollars not spent or dollars recouped at resale.

I never said that modifications didn't have personal satisfaction value. I said that they had nearly no resale value advantages (that's in dollars, not smiles).

I completely agree with you that modifications can bring a tear of joy in your riding experience, but that is just about the only value that they add. I know for a fact that installing Helibar adaptors and clip-ons onto my ST2 to LOWER the bars makes riding it more enjoyable in the twisties, but I firmly expect their resale value to be about zilch, and in some cases will chase off potential buyers because of this mod being an indication of a hard life.....and all the scrapes on hard parts. Because of this, I have retained the stock bars....just in case I ever do want to sell it.

Now, if you want to talk about all the mods I did to my Harley, yeah, they were great the first few years I had the bike, and as I got into sportbikes and my riding style changed on the HD to more of a cruising and commuting vehicle, I regret sinking all that money into the bike. I know that if I was to every sell the bike (which I will not), those ported and polished heads and the other work I did probably will not add a single penny to it....and will also potentially chase off potential buyers. Once the HD rolled about 70k or so, I really started to regret the mods. Now, after rolling 100k and still having a virgin tranny and bottom end, I baby the bike even more. I even regeared it to get better gas mileage for my commute (50-55 mpg through every tank for the last year and a half). All those go-fast mods don't do a thing for me, now.........but they sure were fun when the bike still had low miles and I wasn't afraid to break things.

[junior varsity]

I've heard nothing but good stuff about ST's as well, just like Goldwings are CBR's on 'roids. That being said, the look does nothing to my naughty bits. If I had an MH900e, You would never hear from me, because my garage does not get good wireless signal. I would just sit down there and stare all day.

[Desmo Demon]

I've heard nothing but good stuff about ST's as well, just like Goldwings are CBR's on 'roids. That being said, the look does nothing to my naughty bits.

I've put over 35k miles on mine and like it so much that I picked up another one for the wife less than two weeks ago. I'm selling all the touring mods the previous owner installed and knocking the total price paid down to a ridiculously low amount. It was cool that he gave me the OEM seat and windshield. That means I can sell the Corbin and taller windshield without having to shell out any money for replacements.

[silentbob]

Now, if you want to talk about all the mods I did to my Harley, yeah, they were great the first few years I had the bike, and as I got into sportbikes and my riding style changed on the HD to more of a cruising and commuting vehicle, I regret sinking all that money into the bike. I know that if I was to every sell the bike (which I will not), those ported and polished heads and the other work I did probably will not add a single penny to it....and will also potentially chase off potential buyers.

I guess you are not the typical Harley owner.  Most think that they can recoup the initial purchase price, the full price of the mods, the gas they burned, the insurance they paid, the sales tax they paid, and a healthy profit.

I sold my turbo charged Harley for about half what I had into it after 5 years.  There were plenty of people (dealers included) who told me the bike was worth over $30K but not one of them would actually give me money.

[silentbob]

That means I can sell the Corbin and taller windshield without having to shell out any money for replacements.

Which Corbin seat is it?  They make 3 or 4 different ones for the ST.

[SSSA]

So tomorrow is June 7th.

Where's the bike?

Yes.  I met with them yesterday and we hashed out a bill that is somewhere between the initial promise and the given bill, leaning in my favor.  While I certainly would have like to have paid less, the amount paid will be faaaaaar less than the initial 5 thousand and the 4.5K quoted on the invoice.  They are now taking the parts for labor at a small discount to them, and final payment shall be given upon the guaranteed (in writing and supposedly coming soon)  delivery date of the bike at the absolute latest of June 7th.  There shall also be a one month warranty for the work being done, so on the swingarm, external engine components, exhaust, and everything else that was done specifically by him (not the fork internals). 

The conversation was very civil with no mention of lawyers, hitmen, or arson.  I probably could have done a little better in negotiation, and perhaps done better if I had taken a strongarm approach that was suggested by many (and seen my bike who knows when), but to be fair there WAS more work to be done than was initially quoted, and they came to the table conceding many points without mention from me after speaking with Stuart.

I  am (and I believe the mechanic is) taking this as an expensive learning experience and am coming out better educated.


My main concern now is not financial, but to get the bike back as soon as possible, working well and dialed in.  Also as I said before, the chain is a 525, but the front sprocket is a 15t and the rear is either 43 or 44 (can't remember what we decided on).  I went up in the back because I had read on the previous board that it was the better method for that mod.    Now I'm kind of lost as to what chain and sprocket would be optimal.

[knightrider]

yea, enough with the thread jacks, get a room haha.  you better be at his door at 12:01 asking for your bike lol.

[roy-nexus-6]

I'm not criticizing paradisecity at all with this - I just want the man to get his bike back at a reasonable price. If there was any way I could help, I'd be doing it. Good luck man.

[El Matador]

I'm not criticizing paradisecity at all with this - I just want the man to get his bike back at a reasonable price. If there was any way I could help, I'd be doing it. Good luck man.

Baaahahahahahah that's right...

To quote one of my fav movies:

What now? Let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a couple of hard, pipe-hitting brodas to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you! By a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on yo' ass!

[junior varsity]

Does he look like a pregnant dog?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNlePuVM3Ic

(Turn your volume all the way up)

[printman]

Today is June 7th, follow up please. 



I hope today is a good day for ya. 

[Count Desmo]

Today is June 7th, follow up please. 



I hope today is a good day for ya. 

+1! [moto]

[paradisecity]

I'm riding.

I know that someone will say that  "this thread is worthless without pics" so i took a quick one from my driveway that doesnt do it total justice.  I went riding this morning and am hungover, but shall share more, cooler pics later as well as ride thoughts sometime in the near future.  I might do it in a new thread so that this one can die in peace.

[El Matador]

I'm riding.

I know that someone will say that  "this thread is worthless without pics" so i took a quick one from my driveway that doesnt do it total justice.  I went riding this morning and am hungover, but shall share more, cooler pics later as well as ride thoughts sometime in the near future.  I might do it in a new thread so that this one can die in peace.

It's official dude, that is one baaad mothermake the beast with two backsing bike!

Congrats on getting your bike back! Now it's time for more pics!