Leo Vince Pipe-within-Pipe Question

[powerband]

Hi,

Why does my Leo Vince SBK have a small pipe within the main pipe?  Is it some kind of noise regulator?  Honestly, it doesn't sound loud enough (to me) and I'm wondering if this little pipe-within-the-pipe piece is the reason.  Can I uninstall it?

Thanks!

[Triple J]

That's the baffle...and yes it is the reason they aren't loud.

I'm not sure if you can remove it, but I would guess so. Search around for a screw holding it in.

[powerband]

Thanks, Triple J.  I found the screw and it is one of those screws that are machined for tightening only, and structured so that loosening isn't possible with a screwdriver.  In any case, I can still take the screw off with a pair of pliers, no problem. 

My concern is:  What does the baffle itself look like?  I unscrewed the baffle and giggled it around a little, and it seems like it extends all the way into the exhaust pretty far.  Though I haven't tried, I would have to tug on the baffle and then slide it out.  I'm afraid this is an incorrect procedure and it would be irreversible. 

Thoughts?  Should I pull the baffle straight out?  (I really would like a bigger sound.)

[killerniceguy]

Just take the screw out and pull the baffle out.  The baffle is about 6 inches long and can be replaced if necessary, however I will be surprised if you ever do.  If you haven't picked up a cat eliminator yet I could not recommend it more.  i sat on the fence all summer about getting one.  Picked one up a couple of weeks ago and am pissed for not doing it sooner, the difference is night and day with regards to sound.  It makes my 800 sound real mean, just like a ducati should.  Not insulting loud, but loud enough. 

KNG

Thanks, Triple J.  I found the screw and it is one of those screws that are machined for tightening only, and structured so that loosening isn't possible with a screwdriver.  In any case, I can still take the screw off with a pair of pliers, no problem. 

My concern is:  What does the baffle itself look like?  I unscrewed the baffle and giggled it around a little, and it seems like it extends all the way into the exhaust pretty far.  Though I haven't tried, I would have to tug on the baffle and then slide it out.  I'm afraid this is an incorrect procedure and it would be irreversible. 

Thoughts?  Should I pull the baffle straight out?  (I really would like a bigger sound.)

[powerband]

Last few questions before I commit to taking out the baffles (just paranoid):

1.  The baffle, to be clear, is the smaller pipe within the main exhaust pipe, clearly visible when looking into the tail section, right?
2.  The baffle seems to require a good *pull* with a pair of pliers to extract, as if it were stabilized inside the canister, right?

Thanks again for your patience, everyone!

[killerniceguy]

Last few questions before I commit to taking out the baffles (just paranoid):

1.  The baffle, to be clear, is the smaller pipe within the main exhaust pipe, clearly visible when looking into the tail section, right?

Yes

2.  The baffle seems to require a good *pull* with a pair of pliers to extract, as if it were stabilized inside the canister, right?

Yes - it is a snug fit so it doesn't rattle around.  removing the baffle is 100% reversible. 

Thanks again for your patience, everyone!

[kopfjäger]

After you pull them out, crank it up and let us know what you think.   

[powerband]

Thanks for holding my hands through this and assuring that the sun will rise again.  I pulled the baffles and it was similar to extracting teeth -- a jiggle and a good pull and they slowly slid out.

I cranked up the motor and it was like going from drinking Bud Light to drinking Black and Tan.     I took it out for a 1-hour ride and it was a different experience.  Now, instead of being drowned out by the Honda Civic with the fifty-dollar fart can, I'm drowning out the Ford F150 with the Magnaflows.  I'm not talking Harley-loud, but loud enough so that grandma thinks twice before wandering into my lane.

I've been riding for an entire year with the baffles, thinking that they cannot be removed from the one-way screws.  I got bored today and took a needle-nose pliers to the screws, and now it's like a brand new bike. 

Thanks folks!   

[powerband]

... If you haven't picked up a cat eliminator yet I could not recommend it more.  i sat on the fence all summer about getting one.  Picked one up a couple of weeks ago and am pissed for not doing it sooner, the difference is night and day with regards to sound.  It makes my 800 sound real mean, just like a ducati should.  Not insulting loud, but loud enough. 

KNG

I'm sold on this, too. 

1.  Where do I pick up a cat eliminator? 
2.  Is it easy to install by myself? 
3.  Do I have to reprogram anything? 
4  Will the cops arrest me and send me to a Mexico prison?

Man, I want to jump back on my bike...

[killerniceguy]

Go to one of the site sponsors for the pipe.  If you live in Canada send me a PM, I doubt it as you said you were riding today, most of Canada is under snow or too cold to ride now.  Install is very easy, simply take the old one off, attach the new one.  On my S2R800 I had to adjust the fuel trim with software from the shop I bought the pipe from to eliminate the slight back firing I was getting.  All is good now.  Even with the cat elim you won't even be near the volume of a Harley with straight pipes, 5 O will leave you alone.

I'm sold on this, too. 

1.  Where do I pick up a cat eliminator? 
2.  Is it easy to install by myself? 
3.  Do I have to reprogram anything? 
4  Will the cops arrest me and send me to a Mexico prison?

Man, I want to jump back on my bike...

[powerband]

UPDATE:

I took the bike for a long ride today with its now-debaffled pipes, and right away I noticed some strange things happening around me.

Upon firing up the engine, the neighborhood dogs and cats started having sex with each other and all the birds tore down their nests and ate their young.  The neighbors shut their windows, closed their blinds and locked their kids inside. Cyclists turned their bicycles around and joggers sprinted the other way.

On the El Camino cars pulled over and at the stoplights women in cars flashed their boobs, while their husbands and children watched with anxiety.  Schoolgirls heading to the mall with friends suddenly made detours into tattoo parlors on 4th street.  Priests and nuns checked into the Motel 6.  Conservatives became best friends with gays and crack addicts while liberals hung out with Sarah Palin and the Ku Klux Klan.   

Cops even escorted me through stoplights and waved me off with thumbs-up and smiles, and thereafter all the lights turned green when I approached.

On Skyline the guys dragging their knees on their big liter bikes moved over when I approached from behind and waved me through.  All the Harley Davidson guys saluted me, but the thing that blew my mind and will take me some time to get adjusted is: the BMW guys waved.

In the parking lot of Alice’s Restaurant in Skylonda a total stranger approached me and gave me a Red Bull and offered me his girlfriend… and his dog.  The waitress brought me a beer and said she will run away with me to Mexico, or to Canada, or to South America, as long as we take the motorcycle. 

When I returned home, all the neighbors had “For Sale” signs in front of their homes.  My wife had dinner ready and wore a red negligee.

But all I really wanted to do was take my bike out for another quick spin around the block to hear the pipes again.

Thanks for the help in taking off the baffles.  I thought it was worth it.       

[kopfjäger]