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Multistrada - Next Generation

Started by bluemoco, December 10, 2008, 07:19:42 AM

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bluemoco

Visordown News is reporting that Ducati will be aiming the next-gen Multistrada at the BMW R1200GS.   I can't imagine that Ducati will be building a dual-sport around the 4v 1198 engine, but that's what they're reporting anyway...   [laugh]



"Here's what the French are saying will happen to the next generation Ducati Multistrada - an all new motorcycle with a bigger motor.

According to their spies, there was an announcement at the Milan Show last month to selected dealers that outlined the plans for the multi-purpose machine. In it the dealers were told that the current Multistrada would be replaced in 2010 by a bike that would be very much directed at the BMW R1200GS.

The new bike will not only get a bigger motor (the 1198 lump, no doubt) but new styling sharing key elements from the 1198 too, like the same headlights and fairing cues. Cool."
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DesmoDiva

Plausable, but I'm not going to hold my breath.   [roll]

Very hyper looking. 
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Slag

Would this imply a taller seat as well? It is already a bit much for me. I personally do not like the idea of it being a dual sport, unless the ST4 comes back.

derby

it'll (still) be a 2v 1198, not a 4v... their rendering is even the 2v motor.

funny that they're "targeting" the 1200gs when the 1300gs is right around the corner.
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Spidey

In response to a specific question on this issue at WPM, the head of Ducati marketing said that the next generation Multi would not try to copy or directly challenge the GS.  I think he described it as the "worst idea Ducati could have for the Multistrada" or something like that.  That said, it doesn't mean that they won't target the same demographics.  But he was pretty clear that it wouldn't be an Italian GS.

I'll see if I can find my notes from the meeting.  I was *kinda* paying attention during the Multi discussion, but not as much as I shoulda.
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swampduc

Really does look like a half-faired motard. Hope they bring back the ST4 or something like it, otherwise I'll go BMW for a sport-tourer.
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bluemoco

Quote from: derby on December 10, 2008, 08:26:59 AM
it'll (still) be a 2v 1198, not a 4v... their rendering is even the 2v motor.

You're thinking that they'll enlarge the existing 2v Multi/Hyper/Monster 1100 (1078cc) mill to get to 1198cc?  A 2v engine certainly sounds more plausible for a Multi.
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bmonty72

Wouldn't you want a little more space between front tire and fender on a dual sport bike??? ???

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I'd agree with the head of Ducati marketing-I can't see trying to take on something as entrenched as the GS.
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mitt

Quote from: bmonty72 on December 10, 2008, 09:36:55 AM
Wouldn't you want a little more space between front tire and fender on a dual sport bike??? ???

not always:



You would want spoke wheels though, and not the fancy forged ones like shown.

mitt

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Quote from: bmonty72 on December 10, 2008, 09:36:55 AM
Wouldn't you want a little more space between front tire and fender on a dual sport bike??? ???

If you're going to take it into mud, yes.

IMO, bikes in this weight range are pure punishment in the mud, but sometimes there's no option.
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mitt

Fvck, the magazine couldn't even translate the French story correctly:

http://www.motorevue.com/site/ducati-1100-hyperstrada-37225.html


In short, this is what "It should look like", and the "Optics (lights) are derived from the 1098", not the engine.  Also, "The engine is a 1100cc".

mitt

bluemoco

Has anyone seen one of the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio bikes yet?  They definitely look like they're targeted to the BMW GS buyer demographic.  I imagine that Ducati is looking at this Italian as they work on the redesign of the Multistrada:



Some specs:
Engine Type: 1151cc air-and-oil-cooled eight-valve 90° V-twin engine
Maximum Power: 105 hp at 7,500 rpm

Maximum Torque: Approx. 79.7 ft-lbs. at 6,400 rpm

Transmission: Shaft drive, six-speed gearbox with hydraulically actuated dry clutch
Front Brake: Dual 320 mm floating discs with 4-pot radially-mounted calipers
Rear Brake: Single 282 mm disc with twin-piston caliper
Front Tire: 110/80/19 Pirelli Scorpion
Rear Tire: 180/55/17 Pirelli Scorpion
Saddle Height: Adjustable to 32.5-inch or 33-inch
Dry Weight: 471.79 lbs.
Fuel Tank Capacity: 4.75 gallons
Reserve: 1.18 gallon
MSRP: $14,990
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Speeddog

Saw one of the Stelvios at the MC Show.

Not as handsome in person as that picture.... not that the GS scores well either, IMO.
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superjohn

The gossip on the Multistrada board was that the whole Strada Aperta that was tailored to be more off-road oriented was either a ruse, or it was dropped. The new Multi is (according to their dealer source) a 4V 1198 and very much tailored for the street. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.