New Bill for Loud Motorcycles

[Howie]

If anyone wants to get the latest on this issue, go here:
http://www.suspectsunlimited.com/forum/index.php?topic=936.0

[Chchadder]

Latest word is that one of the bill sponsors, Councilman Liu, has removed his name from the bill.

[Howie]

Latest word is that one of the bill sponsors, Councilman Liu, has removed his name from the bill.

That is an important victory.  Any link to that info?  ?

[Grrrly]

Howie,

I posted that on the  meetup site.  Just found out yesterday.  Liu's office  called Tanya and she sent me this

"Phil, from CM John Liu office just called (before my 4:55PM deadline).  CM Liu has formally filed the paperwork to be removed as a sponsor of Intro 416(a).

Please take the time to formally thank him for his support.

Now for the wording........

While you say thank you ......please ask him to sway two colleagues (or assist you with swaying).  And please cc myself (tanya4ny@gmail.com)

New York City Council, 20th District
Hon. John C. Liu,
Chair, Committee on Transportation
250 Broadway 14th Floor
New York,  NY  10007

liu@council.nyc.ny.us
"

[Howie]

Wow!  Thanks.  As someone who was there I can say your Power Point has a lot do do with the success of these meetings.

[EvilSteve]

Is there anything else I can do to help?

My goal would be to actually introduce laws addressing the issue of open pipes because that is a legitimate issue IMO.

[Howie]

Is there anything else I can do to help?

My goal would be to actually introduce laws addressing the issue of open pipes because that is a legitimate issue IMO.

This issue is already covered in two New York State laws.

NYS Vehicle & Traffic Law, Article 9, Section 381
Makes modification of motorcycle exhaust that increases noise level over stock systems illegal

NYS Vehicle & Traffic Law, Article 10, Section 386.
Sets a maximum db level of 82 up to 35 MPH and 86 over 35MPH

[EvilSteve]

Sure, but those laws aren't actually enforced. While that is the case, we're going to keep seeing people introducing 416 style legislation because there's actually a problem. Not saying it's the right way but it's certainly the easy way.

[Howie]

The right way is enforce existing laws.  The easy way is what they want to do.  Certified hand held noise level meters can cost as little as $100, add a little police training, job done.

[2001cromo]

The right way is enforce existing laws.  The easy way is what they want to do.  Certified hand held noise level meters can cost as little as $100, add a little police training, job done.

Then you could even use those little decibel meters to enforce other already in place laws for the idiots with their loud stereos/cars/trucks and so on.... mo money mo money mo money for the city and they'd be cutting down on noise overall. Cha Ching!!!!!

but I don't want to think too far out of the box....

[mookieo2]

They don`t need meters. Just like I got a ticket for window tint(that was legal). Cop said it was 37% instead of 35% at night w/ out a meter. Just to inconvenience you.

[Grrrly]

COMMUNITY MEETING
NY MOTORCYCLE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO ATTEND


SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND 4PM

IS 8 - RS Grossley Jr. High School
108-35 167th St.
Jamaica, NY  11433


CCMS will present an agenda covering the following information:
Proposition 416-A
State/Federal Efforts
Council visits and community accountability
Policing our community
Safety/Informational Seminars
Manufacturers role & responsibility
Police Harassment (the season is fast approaching, are we ready...)
Motorcycle Awareness Effort
Fallen Rider Run


Please come and get the information for yourself and/or for your club.  Take part in CCMS efforts to safeguard our rights and our safety on the roads.  If you aren't a part of the solution you are a part of the problem.

[He Man]

All the way in Jamaica? damn thats far!

What is CCMS?

[Howie]

All the way in Jamaica? damn thats far!

What is CCMS?

CCMS stands for Concerned Citizens For Motorcycle Safety, which, I guess can be described as an umbrella organization for clubs and independent riders.  Below are links to give you a better idea. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ccmsny

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/search/Concerned%20Citizens%20for%20Motorcycle%20Safety

http://forevainracingmode.com/fighting_for_motorcyclist_rights_in_nyc.html

[Grrrly]

What is CCMS?

It's a committee made of  8 people (2 are independent riders, the others are from local sportbike MCs).  There's no real membership, which is a bit misleading.  They are trying to get info out to the sportbike MC community.